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From: "Jack Steer" <>
Subject: Re: [STEER] Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:07:12 +0100
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Dean,

<It's great to see you are back in full swing again>

Thank you, but it really isn't full swing, probably about half swing

You asked

<Any current thoughts?>

I can't find a copy or transcription of the 1847 marriage certificate. Could
you pass one on please? I don't know, but it is just possible that there
could be witnesses or something that might provide a new line of enquiry.

I've checked directories and so on for Garton on the Wolds and they didn't
help at all. And I still don't understand why George would have moved to
East Yorkshire from Surrey to marry.

Just thought, I wonder if there was a religious connection. His obituary
does talk about "Brother STEER was converted to God in his native land when
he was 21 years of age" about the time of his marriage.



Regards,

Jack Steer



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [STEER] Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force


> Hi Jack,
>
>
> It's great to see you are back in full swing again, keeping the Steer
> postings going strong!
>
> My grandfather was Melvin Steer, born 1897, Ontario. His father was John
> Steer born 1860 in Ontario.
> If you might remember I have been somewhat stumped with John's father
> George Steer.
>
> Taken from his obituary in the Brampton Guardian, 1899:
>
> " George Steer was born in Surrey County, England, July 29th 1826 and died
> in Markdale, Ontario April 15th, 1899. Brother Steer was converted to God
> in his native land when he was 21 years of age and for 50 years held the
> offices of local preacher. He was earnest and scriptual and practiced what
> he preached as a class leader. None could be more faithful than he, was
> most dearly loved by the members of his class in whose spiritual welfare
> he
> took a very deep interest. Forty-eight years ago he left his native
> country
> and came to Canada and took up farming , and by industry and good economy
> made an honourable living for himself and family and saved a competence
> for
> old age. Fourteen years ago he retired from the farm and settled in
> Markdale
> where he has been these years a Benediction not only to the Methodist
> Church
> but to the entire community. His end was peaceful. He leaves his widow,
> five
> daughters and two sons to mourn the loss of a truly Christian husband and
> father."
>
> This from a previous posting of mine:
>
>
> I am researching my GGGrandfather George Steer born July 29,1826. His
> Obituary and headstone list him as from Surrey county,England. I know
> his father's name was George Steer also, as it was listed on his
> marriage certificate. He married Hannah Arnett in Garton on the Wolds,
> Yorkshire 12 December 1847. George and Hannah emigrated to Canada around
> 1851, farming in Tullamore, Peel county, Ontario. George and Hannah had
> 10 children, 2 of which I know did not survive childhood. George and
> Hannah Steer retired to Markdale, Grey county Ontario around 1885.
> George passed away April 15, 1899.
> There is a George Steer christened 1 October 1826 in Horne, Surrey. He
> was the son of George and Milly(Amelia) Steer of Burstow, Surrey. I
> believe
> strongly that this is my GG grandfather.
> George and Amelia or Milly Steer had four other children:
> Thomas Steer christened 28 June 1818 in Burstow, Surrey
> Mary Steer christened 27 May 1821 in Burstow, Surrey
> Elizabeth Steer christened 9 May 1824 in Burstow,Surrey
> James Steer christened 21 February 1830 in Horne, Surrey
>
> Listed in the burials for Burstow were:
> Thomas Steer age 13 years, buried 10 July 1831
> James Steer age 2 years, buried 19 November 1831
> Amelia Steer age 34 years, buried 2 February 1832
> Elizabeth Steer age 8 years , buried 17 February 1832
> It seems the family did not fare well over that time. Outbreak of Illness?
> Possibility that the remainder of the family would leave the area at that
> time?
>
> Any current thoughts?
>
> Best Regards,
> Dean Steer
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Steer" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:19 AM
> Subject: [STEER] Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force
>
>
>>
>> The Great War attestation papers of the Canadian Overseas Expeditionary
>> Force are available on line at the Library and Archives Canada web site -
>> www.collectionscanada.gc.ca
>>
>> I've just finished transcribing all the STEER(E)(S), STEAR(E)(S) and
>> STURE(S) entries that I could find. No STURE(S), but about sixty others.
>> I've now cross referenced the STEER entries with my CWGC file. I half
>> expected more deaths given the attacks that Canadian troops were required
>> to undertake on the Western Front.
>>
>> Of the sixty or so papers ten were born in Canada, two in Jamaica, one in
>> Australia and the rest in England.
>>
>> An index of what I now hold is below and includes people from almost
>> every
>> STEER enclave in the UK. Many of the entries have reference to the wife
>> or
>> mother or father or sibling
>>
>> I found two sets of entries particularly interesting
>>
>> Some really interesting individuals including one chap who enlisted under
>> two different names and a pair of black Jamaican's who travelled to
>> Canada
>> to join up. The younger one died in 1915.
>>
>> Ernest Percival STEERS enlisted as Percival STEERS born 27.3.1896 in
>> Christiana, Jamaica, passed fit on 9.2.1915 in Toronto, he died 5.4.1915
>> and is buried in Toronto (St. John's Norway) Cemetery. His older brother
>> Vivian Edward STEERS was passed fit on 11.6.1915, just two months later.
>> Vivian was described as a "dark skinned Jamaican" and I wonder if that
>> was
>> to avoid prejudice that they travelled to Canada to enlist.
>>
>> William Samuel PEARCE is even more of an enigma. He was passed fit on
>> 13.5.1915 in Lindsay, but discharged at St John, New Brunswick on
>> 3.4.1916. Charles STEERS was passed fit on 15.8.1916 in Port Hope,
>> Ontario
>> and signed his declaration before a JP the same.
>>
>> But it's the same chap and I still cannot find any reason for his
>> discharge, nor for his choosing to enlist a second time under a different
>> name.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jack Steer
>> Banbury
>>
>> ADAMS, EDWARD STEERS - 22.02.1881 696785 Reference RG 150, Accession
>> 1992-93/166, Box 25 - 25 Born Mitcham, Surrey
>>
>> CLARK, HARRY STEERE - 8.3.1880 Regiment Number: RG 150, Accession
>> 1992-93/166, Box 1742 - 40 Born Nottingham
>>
>> PEARCE, WILLIAM SAMUEL - 23.07.1871 Reference RG 150,
>> Accession 1992-93/166, Box 7828 - 33 Born Birmingham
>>
>> STEAR, FREDERICK SAMUEL 7.03.1890 512978 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9250 - 13 - died 31.10.1918 Born Bristol
>>
>> STEAR, HENRY HARRY HERBERT 2713 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box 9250 -
>> 14 Born Stratford, West Ham, London
>>
>> STEER, ALFRED 30.06.1894 150626 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box 9261 -
>> 33 Born Woking, Surrey
>>
>> STEER, ALFRED GILBERT 28.12.1877 907384 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box
>> 9261 - 34 Born London
>>
>> STEER, ALFRED HENRY 26.04.1890 2139668 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 35 Born London
>>
>> STEER, ARTHUR EVLYN 21.06.1896 3346234 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 36 Born Plymouth
>>
>> STEER, BERNARD 29.04.1885 183162 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 -
>> 37 Born Plymouth
>>
>> STEER, CHARLES 02.04.1886 408530 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 -
>> 39 Born Kent
>>
>> STEER, CHARLES 18.04.1898 1069435 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 38 Born Rotherham, Yorkshire
>>
>> STEER, CHARLES GEORGE 13.09.1884 524085 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box
>> 9261 - 40 Born Port Adelaide, South Australia
>>
>> STEER, CHARLES PEARMAN 26.01.1882 107561 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9261 - 41 - died 22.5.1917 as a lieutenant Born Hampstead, Middlesex
>>
>> STEER, EDWIN ERNEST 03.09.1886 3346535 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 42 Born Plymouth
>>
>> STEER, ERNEST 21.04.1879 100166 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box 9261 -
>> 43 Born Kingsbridge, Devon
>>
>> STEER, ERNEST ARTHUR ??.??.???? MAJ RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 44 Born London
>>
>> STEER, FREDERICK 26.05.1886 4001516 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 45 Born London, Ontario
>>
>> STEER, GEORGE HOBSON 25.04.1884 LT RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 46 Born Hamilton, Ontario
>>
>> STEER, HARRY FRANK 15.09.1882 SGT 174092 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9261 - 47 Born Alton, Hampshire
>>
>> STEER, HENRY 11.04.1893 Born Middlesex County, London, Ontario
>>
>> STEER, HENRY HARRY HERBERT RANDOLPH CORNELIUS 22.03.1887 333998 RG 150,
>> Accession 1992-93.166, Box 9261 - 48 Born Stratford, West Ham, London
>>
>> STEER, HENRY JAMES 20.11.1877 1051045 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 49 Born London
>>
>> STEER, HENRY WALTER 01.11.1897 633895 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 51 Born Sevenoaks, Kent
>>
>> STEER, HENRY WALTER R 01.11.1896 456066 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box
>> 9261 - 50 Born Kent
>>
>> STEER, HERBERT FRANK 10.03.1886 106565 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 52 - died 20.6.1916 Born Surrey
>>
>> STEER, JAMES 18.11.1878 246200 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box 9261 -
>> 53 Born Durnton Green, Sevenoaks, Kent
>>
>> STEER, JAMES FRANK 29.03.1896 455322 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 54 - died 8.10.1916 Born Sevenoaks, Kent
>>
>> STEER, JOHN CYRIL 05.03.1897 453799 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 55 Born Sheffield
>>
>> STEER, JOHN HENRY 3205035 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box 9261 - 56
>>
>> STEER, MELVIN ALDIS 29.03.1897 1009862 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 57 Born Markdale, Ontario
>>
>> STEER, PHILIP MOICY 15.03.1883 2430 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 58 - died 5.5.1916 Born Portsmouth, Hampshire
>>
>> STEER, ROBERT ROPER 17.11.1887 928293 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 59 Born Beesands, Kingsbridge, Devon
>>
>> STEER, SIDNEY EDWIN 30.10.1891 928137 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 60 Born Devon
>>
>> STEER, THOMAS ARMSTRONG 12.06.1883 404210 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9261 - 61 - died 28.4.1917 Born Toronto, Ontario
>>
>> STEER, WILLIAM HENRY 15.06.1883 402628 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 62 Born Kingsbridge, Devon
>>
>> STEER, WILLIAM HENRY 20.02.1892 412427 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 63 Born Cornwood, Devon
>>
>> STEER, WILLIAM STANLEY LUKE 14.09.1888 3207711 RG 150, Accession
>> 1992-93.166, Box 9261 - 64 Born Plymouth, Devon
>>
>> STEER, WILLIAM THOMAS 11.09.1887 2250645 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9261 - 65 Born Surrey
>>
>> STEERE, EDWARD 21.04.1889 DVR 6129 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 - 66
>>
>> STEERE, JAY 20.10.1888 4030027 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9261 -
>> 67 Born Montreal
>>
>> STEERS, CHARLES 11.05.1872 1037914 410854 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9262 - 1 Born Birmingham
>>
>> STEERS, CHARLES HENRY 27.03.1878 SPR 45399 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9262 - 2 Born Birmingham
>>
>> STEERS, CONNELL GERALD 23.09.1893 LT RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 - 3 Born Ottawa
>>
>> STEERS, ERNEST PERCIVAL 27.03.1896 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 - 12 Enlisted as Percival, died 5.4.1915 Born Christiana, Jamaica
>>
>> STEERS, FRANCIS PAUL 14.01.1891 CPT RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 - 4 Born Ottawa
>>
>> STEERS, FREDERICK 05.03.1880 213348 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 - 5 Born London
>>
>> STEERS, FREDERICK WALTER 16.09.1899 3236594 RG 150, Accession
>> 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9262 - 7 Born Birmingham
>>
>> STEERS, FREDERICK WALTER 30.09.1896 101257 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9262 - 6 Born Lacombe, Alberta
>>
>> STEERS, GEORGE WALTER 08.05.1896 149005 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box
>> 9262 - 9 - died 26.10.1917 Born Portsmouth, England
>>
>> STEERS, GEORGE WILLIAM 03.01.1873 189721 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9262 - 8 Born Ascot, Berkshire
>>
>> STEERS, HAROLD ARTHUR MOLINEUX 28.03.1893 1015165 RG 150, Accession
>> 1992-93.166, Box 9262 - 10 Born Sussex
>>
>> STEERS, NORMAN WILLIAM 04.03.1893 3106093 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9262 - 11 Born Sidcup, Kent
>>
>> STEERS, ROBERT 11.06.1873 721325 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 -
>> 13 Born London
>>
>> STEERS, VIVIAN EDWARD 07.05.1894 113573 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box
>> 9262 - 14 Born Christiana, Jamaica
>>
>> STEERS, WILLIAM 05.02.1879 159189 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 - 15 Born Brighton, Sussex
>>
>> STEERS, WILLIAM ALFRED 14.06.1876 438555 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166,
>> Box 9262 - 16 - died 17.11.1915 Born Watford, England
>>
>> STEERS, WILLIAM BARRY 17.12.1874 CPT RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 - 17 Born Ottawa
>>
>> STEERS, WILLIAM JAMES HENRY 21.10.1898 1102250 RG 150, Accession
>> 1992-93.166, Box 9262 - 18 Born Brighton, Sussex
>>
>> STEERS, WILLIAM JOHN 03.01.1898 342895 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 - 20 Born Birmingham
>>
>> STEERS, WILLIAM JOHN 22.04.1872 231817 RG 150, Accession 1992-93.166, Box
>> 9262 - 19 Born Hoxton, London
>>
>> STEERS, WILLIAM WALTER 20.11.1878 SPR 2009326 RG 150, Accession
>> 1992-93.166, Box 9262 - 21 Born Derbyshire
>>
>>
>>
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