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From: "Mike Steer" <>
Subject: Re: [STEER] STEER groups in Cornwall
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:38:47 +1000
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Thanks Jack: Nice to have you back. I'll take a look at thism over the
weekend. the notion that Eliza was already widowed when she married
granduncle Edwin is certainly interesting. I should think it might have been
quite easy to have been widowed to a tin miner in those days, Mike.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Steer" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [STEER] STEER groups in Cornwall


>
> Mike,
>
> The idea of linking groups together in isolated pockets works well enough
> with most of the Cornish clans. Predictably there is an exception and it
> is
> the Bovey Tracey group in Calstock. Almost all the records I have for
> Calstock don't relate to Edwin and his family and I still don't know where
> the farming herd in Calstock originated.
>
> A situation not made easier by Calstock being in Liskeard, Cornwall
> district
> up to 1860 and then in Tavistock, Devon district.
>
> The little I have found is below, perhaps others have more information
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Jack Steer
>
>
> GENERATION 1
>
> Edwin STEER - born Bovey Tracey, Devon, Q2 1845 birth registered Newton
> Abbot, Devon district (GRO X 138) - died before 1891
>
> Married Q4 1868 in Tavistock, Devon district (GRO 5b 659) to Eliza
> BICKLE -
> 1839/41 born in Cornwall, perhaps Q1 1839 birth registered Tavistock,
> Devon
> district (GRO IX 480)
>
> [1871 census - Edwin STEER (miner aged 25, born Bovey Tracey, Cornwall)
> living in Calstock, Cornwall with wife Eliza (aged 31, born Quay, perhaps
> Kea, Cornwall), sons Richard Henry (scholar aged 6, born Calstock,
> Cornwall)
> and Edwin (aged 1, born Calstock, Cornwall)]
>
> [1881 census - Edwin STEER (tin miner aged 35, born Innis, Devon) living
> at
> 5 Rows Cottage, Calstock, Cornwall with wife Eliza (aged 40), son Richard
> H
> (unmarried copper miner aged 17) and daughters Lavinia (scholar aged 9)
> and
> Eliza A (aged 3). All bar Edwin born Calstock, Cornwall]
>
> [1891 census - Eliza STEER (widowed grocer etc (neither employer nor
> employee), aged 51, born Chacewater, Cornwall) living in St Ann's Chapel,
> Calstock, Cornwall with daughter Eliza Ann STEER (aged 13, born Calstock,
> Cornwall), son in law Albert J FICE (copper miner (employee) aged 26, born
> North Lew, Devon), her daughter and his wife Lavinia (aged 19, born
> Calstock, Cornwall) and grandson Edwin J FICE (aged 5 months, born
> Calstock,
> Cornwall)]
>
> NOTES
>
> 1. It is possible that Eliza was a widow when she married Edwin STEER. If
> so
> this would be her first marriage
>
> Eliza TOMS married Q2 1860 in Liskeard, Cornwall district (GRO 5c 97) to
> Edwin BICKLE
>
> [1861 census - Edwin BICKLE (miner aged 24) living in Turnpike, Calstock,
> Cornwall with wife Eliza (aged 21) and daughter Eliza (aged 5 months). All
> born Calstock, Cornwall]
>
> 2. One of the daughters of Edwin and Eliza was baptised Lavinia Toms STEER
>
> 3. There appear to be no readily available records for Edwin STEER in
> either
> the 1851 or 1861 censuses
>
>
>
> GENERATION 2
>
> Children of Edwin STEER and Eliza perhaps was BICKLE nee TOMS
>
> Richard Henry STEER - 1864/5 born Calstock, Cornwall -
>
> [1871 census - Richard Henry STEER (scholar aged 6, born Calstock,
> Cornwall)
> living in Calstock, Cornwall with parents - see above]
>
> [1881 census - Richard H STEER (unmarried copper miner aged 17, born
> Calstock, Cornwall) living at 5 Rows Cottage, Calstock, Cornwall with
> parents - see above]
>
> NOTE - there is no evidence that Richard Henry was the son of Edwin STEER,
> he may have been the son of Edwin BICKLE and changed his name when his
> mother remarried
>
> Edwin STEER - 1869/70 born Calstock, Cornwall, Q3 1869 birth registered
> Tavistock, Devon district (GRO 5b 354) - 15.3.1874 buried St Anne's
> Chapel,
> Calstock
>
> [1871 census - Edwin STEER (aged 1, born Calstock, Cornwall) living in
> Calstock, Cornwall with parents - see above]
>
> Lavinia Toms STEER - 4.11.1871 born St Ann's Chapel, Calstock, Cornwall,
> 26.10.1872 private baptism at All Saints Harrowbarrow, Q4 1871 birth
> registered Tavistock, Devon district (GRO 5b 361)
>
> [1881 census - Lavinia STEER (scholar aged 9, born Calstock, Cornwall)
> living at 5 Rows Cottage, Calstock, Cornwall with parents - see above]
>
> Married Q4 1890 in Tavistock, Devon district (GRO 5b 736) to Albert John
> FICE - Q4 1865 birth registered Liskeard, Cornwall district (GRO 5c 64)
>
> [1891 census - Albert John FICE (copper miner (employee) aged 26, born
> North
> Lew, Devon) living in St Ann's Chapel, Calstock, Cornwall with his wife
> Lavinia (aged 19, born Calstock, Cornwall) and son Edwin J (aged 5 months,
> born Calstock, Cornwall) in the household of his mother in law Eliza STEER
> (widowed grocer etc (neither employer nor employee), aged 51, born
> Chacewater, Cornwall) - see above]
>
> Eliza Ann STEER - 1877/8 born Calstock, Cornwall, Q4 1877 birth registered
> Tavistock, Devon district (GRO 5b 374)
>
> [1881 census - Eliza A STEER (aged 3, born Calstock, Cornwall) living at 5
> Rows Cottage, Calstock, Cornwall with parents - see above]
>
> [1891 census - Eliza Ann STEER (aged 13, born Calstock, Cornwall) living
> in
> St Ann's Chapel, Calstock, Cornwall with widowed mother - see above]
>
>
>
> GENERATION 3
>
> Child of Albert John FICE and Lavinia Toms nee STEER
>
> Edwin J FICE - 1890 born Calstock, Cornwall, Q4 1890 birth registered
> Tavistock, Devon district (GRO 5b 314)
>
> [1891 census - Edwin J FICE (aged 5 months, born Calstock, Cornwall)
> living
> in St Ann's Chapel, Calstock, Cornwall with his parents in the household
> of
> his grandmother Eliza STEER - see above]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Steer" <>
> To: <>
> Cc: "Victor Coombes" <>
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [STEER] STEER groups in Cornwall
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jack Steer" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:42 AM
>> Subject: [STEER] STEER groups in Cornwall
>> Are there any other examples in Cornwall or some other county? If there
>> are it would make identifying groups very much easier.
>>> Regards,
>>> Jack Steer
>>> Banbury
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Jack: Here are some of the Bovey Steer's living in Calstock. I'd
>> certainly like to know more about them. I've been searching for a while
>> but
>> without much success. My grandfather Edwin STEER was apparently named
>> after
>> this (uncle) Edwin, Mike.
>>
>>
>>
>> Descendants of Edwin Steer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Generation No. 1
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. EDWIN12 STEER (BENJAMIN11, NICHOLAS10, NICHOLAS9 STEERE, JONAS8,
>> JONAS7, JONAS6, JOHES5, JOHES4 STURE, THOMAE3 STEWER, STURE OR STEERE ALS
>> CLARK, ROBERTI CLARKE ALS2, STURE OR1 STEERE, BOVEY TRACEY) was born Abt.
>> 1846 in Bovey Tracey, Devon, and died Bef. 1891. He married ELIZA. She
>> was
>> born Abt. 1841 in Quay, Cornwall.
>>
>>
>>
>> More About EDWIN STEER:
>>
>> Census: 1881, Birthplace listed as Innis.
>>
>> Occupation: 1881, Tin Miner
>>
>> Residence: 1881, Row's Cottage No 5, Calstock, Cornwall
>>
>>
>>
>> More About ELIZA:
>>
>> Census: 1891, Place of birth; Chacewater, Cornwall
>>
>> Occupation: 1891, Grocer, Not employee
>>
>> Residence: 1881, Row's Cottage No 5, Calstock, Cornwall
>>
>>
>>
>> Children of EDWIN STEER and ELIZA are:
>>
>> i. RICHARD HENRY13 STEER, b. Abt. 1865, Calstock,
>> Cornwall.
>>
>>
>>
>> More About RICHARD HENRY STEER:
>>
>> Occupation: 1881, Copper Miner
>>
>> Residence: 1881, Row's Cottage No 5, Calstock, Cornwall
>>
>>
>>
>> ii. EDWIN STEER, b. Abt. 1870, Calstock, Cornwall;
>> d. March 15, 1874, St Anne's Chapel, Calstock.
>>
>>
>>
>> More About EDWIN STEER:
>>
>> Residence: 1871, Calstock, Cornwall
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. iii. LEVINIA TOMS STEER, b. November 04, 1871,
>> Calstock, Cornwall.
>>
>> iv. ELIZA ANN STEER, b. Abt. 1878, Calstock,
>> Cornwall.
>>
>>
>>
>> More About ELIZA ANN STEER:
>>
>> Residence: 1881, Row's Cottage No 5, Calstock, Cornwall.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Generation No. 2
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. LEVINIA TOMS13 STEER (EDWIN12, BENJAMIN11, NICHOLAS10, NICHOLAS9
>> STEERE,
>> JONAS8, JONAS7, JONAS6, JOHES5, JOHES4 STURE, THOMAE3 STEWER, STURE OR
>> STEERE ALS CLARK, ROBERTI CLARKE ALS2, STURE OR1 STEERE, BOVEY TRACEY)
>> was
>> born November 04, 1871 in Calstock, Cornwall. She married ALBERT JOHN
>> FICE,
>> son of CATHERINE. He was born Abt. 1866 in Gunnislake, Cornwall.
>>
>>
>>
>> More About LEVINIA TOMS STEER:
>>
>> Baptism: October 26, 1872, St Ann's Chapel, Calstock & All Saints
>> Harrowbarrow
>>
>> Occupation: 1881, Scholar
>>
>> Residence: 1881, Row's Cottage No 5, Calstock, Cornwall
>>
>>
>>
>> More About ALBERT JOHN FICE:
>>
>> Occupation: 1891, Copper Miner
>>
>> Residence: 1891, St Ann's Chapel, Calstock
>>
>>
>>
>> Child of LEVINIA STEER and ALBERT FICE is:
>>
>> i. EDWIN J14 FICE, b. Abt. 1891, Calstock,
>> Cornwall.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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