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From: "Simon" <>
Subject: Re: Ejected for Simony hearing at Arch Bishops Laid trial?
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:37:53 +0100
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Lyn is probably right to say it would have been a church court of some kind,
but 1638 is too early for someone to be 'a scandalous minister' - these were
the priests prosecuted in the 1640s and 1650s for failing to toe the
puritan/presbyterian line after the abolition of the CofE as an episcopal
church, and very many of them are considered heroes today - you can read
about some on my site in the entries for Brandeston and Theberton.
Simony is technically the sin of charging money for the receipt of a
sacrament (I think it comes in the Acts of the Apostles, when someone called
Simon offers to buy the gift the Holy Spirit, but someone will know better
than me).
Archbishop Laud's great crusade was to try and reintroduce a sense of the
sacramental into the post-Reformation Church of England. This would
ultimately end in failure, and his death on the scaffold, in the 1640s. But
the Bishop of Norwich was an enthusiastic supporter of Laud, and his
interference was greatly resented in many parts of Suffolk which was by then
strongly Puritan. The prosecution of a minister for Simony must have been
noteworthy, and have been well-documented. It might even be worth looking at
history books about the Laudian period.
Simon
www.suffolkchurches.co.uk - an alternative guide to the churches of
Suffolk.
----- Original Message -----
From: "annyslb" <>
To: <>
Sent: 03 June 2001 15:58
Subject: Re: Ejected for Simony hearing at Arch Bishops Laid trial?
> I can't help re your family but suggest that it is Archbishop William
Laud,
> Archbishop of Canterbury, being referred to. If John Ward was dismissed
for
> simony he probably was tried in the church courts and that would either
have
> been at the diocesan level, (Norwich, assuming Dennington is in that
diocese) or
> at the next level up which would be Canterbury. Church court records are
not
> easy, but there should be records either at Norwich RO or ?? Public Record
> Office or Lambeth Palace ?? not sure which. There are various lists
published of
> scandalous ministers and the like which he might appear on. Lyn B
>
> hallowes wrote:
>
> > I am tracing my WARD family and have purchased the Parish records for
> > Dennington. I can get back to John WARD who I believe was born about
1760.
> > I can't find a birth for him in Dennington. I did find a John Wardly
born
> > about the right time.
> >
> > Back in 1624 there was a John Ward who was "Instituted? as Rector of
> > Dennington and signed the town book till 1636 and afterwards was ejected
for
> > SIMONY on 14 June 1638 " then it says see the (something like) Fifth
Days
> > Hearing of the Arch Bishops Laids Trial. It is a bit hard to read.
Does
> > anyone know what this might be and if there are records, were would they
be
> > kept?
> > I know that SIMONY is the offering or excepting money or other rewards
for
> > nomination or appointment to an ecclesiastical office. I would like to
find
> > out what happened to him.
> > I wondered if his family changed their name to Wardley for a while
because
> > of the disgrace then later reverted to WARD(E) ! Maybe I'm clutching at
> > straws but I would like to know if he left Dennington. I believe he was
> > married to Lydia and they had several children including , Martha
3/12/1624,
> > Mary 6/5/1627, Susan 5/11/1628, Samuell born 21/9/1632. There is quite
a
> > bit on this particular fiche that is very hard to read and they may have
had
> > more children. The John Wardley born in 1763 was son of Robert and Mary
> > WARDL(E)Y. Is anyone out there tracing the Wardley family?
> >
> > I would love some advice and suggestions
> >
> > thanks everyone
> >
> > Penny
>
>
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