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From: "gdy2shosflthybst" <>
Subject: Re: [SUVCW] giant confederate flag in the news
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:22:09 -0400
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Good thoughts from Brother Beard.

I spend a lot of my time portraying General Thomas at re-enactmenst and its'
become both amusing and sad to note the number of people who call General
Thomas a traitor for fighting for the Union becasue he was a Virginian by
birth. General Thomas also realized that he was an American by birth too,
and that had to take precedence over his State loyalty.

You should see the shocked looks on their faces when I remain in first
person and give them an assessment of General Lee as the most gifted traitor
the rebels had. I then go on to explain that Lee took an oath to defend the
United States against ALL enemies when he accepted a US Army commission and
then betrayed that oath in accepting a commission in the confederate army.
General Thomas thought that oath as a gentleman and a patriot should count
for something.

Mr. Beard is right. We need to call the SCV on their distortions. I think
its fine for them to remember their rebel ancestors but they need to admit
that their cause was one of the worst for which any people ever took up
arms.

Dept Commander Eric Peterson
Dept of Georgia and South Carolina
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Beard" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [SUVCW] giant confederate flag in the news


> In the article, the SCV representative says: "... the flag isn't about
> racism or slavery. It's about honoring our ancestors and about celebrating
> our heritage," ..... "It's a historical thing to us."
>
> They get away with this because no one (including us) calls them on it.
> Of course its about racism and slavery. The flag stands for a group of
> rebels who attempted to overthrow by force of arms the only country ever
> founded on the central idea that all men are created equal and endowed by
> the Creator with certain inalienable rights -- life, liberty, and the
> pursuit of happiness. Once those rebels were defeated on the field, they
> created the KKK who flew the same flag while terrorizing and lynching
> negroes all across the land with impunity. That is the "historical
> thing."
>
> We need to spend more time quoting General Grant that while the rebels
> ".... suffered so much for a cause.... that cause .... was one of the
> worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the
> least excuse."
>
> Mike Beard
> Irish Brigade Camp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doug McMillin
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:03 AM
> Subject: [SUVCW] giant confederate flag in the news
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Here is a story I found on the Drudge Report today just for your perusal.
> The worlds largest confederate flag. Interesting only in the fact that
> it
> will no doubt blow the whole controversy back into the spotlight again.
> Of
> course I am sure that is their aim in doing this. The fact that the SCV
> feels the need to act in this way to make a point about history seems to
> me
> to be simply more clear evidence that the history of this country is
> sadly
> lacking in most people's education.
>
> Doug McMillin JVC
> Gettysburg Camp #112
>
> http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article551722.ece?75
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