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From: "Dawn and Joe Nyberg" <>
Subject: Re: [SUVCW] Arlington Confederate Monument
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:20:55 -0400
References: <C639779A.45F0%dhayes1@dmreg.com>


I agree as well. The Civil War should have taught us a lesson and the act
of placing a wreath on the Monument is simply a tribute to those who gave
their lives for what they believed in. Insofar as the slavery issue is
concerned it can be argued that both sides are guilty. Keep the tradition
alive.

Dr. Leonard J. Nyberg, Jr.
Lisbon, New Hampshire
NH Camp #5
RI Camp #7




----- Original Message -----
From: "Hayes, Dann" <>
To: "," <@rootsweb.com>; <>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [SUVCW] Arlington Confederate Monument


>I agree. Keep the tradition alive.
>
> Again, there are some folks who are trying to put 21st century ideals into
> the discussion of what happened in the 1860s - can't do it and bring
> justice to the era.
>
> If we are going to start discussing race relations, etc., then we have to
> keep it to historical facts and not assume that everyone in the south
> (Confederacy) was racist. There were plenty (probably more) on the Union
> side. We can find quotes, statements, etc., that would open this further
> than it has to go.
>
> Honestly, didn't we learn anything after the Civil War?
>
> I have been to that monument (used to live in Northern
> Virginia -Annandale) and it is a very nice looking monument. Very well
> done. IMHO it is one of the better ones at the cemetery.
>
> It and the soldiers in the cemetery deserve a wreath.
>
>
>
> Dann Hayes
> Sgt. N. F. Bates No. 64
> Poweshiek County, Iowa
> (past commander)
>
>
> On 5/20/09 8:02 AM, "Ernest Everett Blevins" <>
> wrote:
>
> This just appeared on Confederate related lists yesterday. I'm open for
> discussion on it as long as we keep to facts and not delve into modern
> politics or name calling as there are likely those that like Obama and I
> know there are those that dislike him on this list. As one that has and
> honors ancestors on both sides I think the tradition should continue. I
> think the letter could respark a Lost Cause debate which clearly they are
> reaching back to Lost Cause speak as their rationale to fight it.
>
> Ernie Blevins
> List Admin.
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:50 AM, <> wrote:
>
>>
>> This letter was written by Edward Sebesta and James Loewen and signed by
>> the scholars listed below. (See the full letter and signatures at
>> _http://hnn.us/articles/85884.html_ (http://hnn.us/articles/85884.html)
>> )
>> President Barack H. Obama May 18, 2009
>> The White House
>> 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
>> Washington, DC 20500 Dear President Obama:
>> Since the administration of Woodrow Wilson, presidents have sent annually
>> a
>> wreath to the Arlington Confederate Monument. Prior to the
>> administration
>> of George H. W. Bush, this was done on or near the birthday of Jefferson
>> Davis. Starting with George H.W. Bush, it has been done on Memorial Day.
>> We ask you to not send a wreath or some other commemorative token to the
>> Arlington Confederate Monument during your administration or after.
>> There are several reasons as to why this monument, a product of the Nadir
>> in American race relations, should not be honored, and we list and
>> explain
>> them in this letter.
>>
>> The monument was intended to legitimize secession and the principles of
>> the Confederacy and glorify the Confederacy. It isn't just a remembrance
>> of
>> the dead. The speeches at its ground-breaking and dedication defended
>> and
>> held up as glorious the Confederacy and the ideas behind it and stated
>> that
>> the monument was to these ideals as well as the dead. It was also
>> intended
>> as a symbol of white nationalism, portrayed in opposition to the
>> multiracial
>> democracy of Reconstruction, and a celebration of the re-establishment
>> of
>> white supremacy in the former slave states by former Confederate
>> soldiers.
>> In its design it also tells wrong history, boasting fourteen shields
>> with
>> the coat of arms of fourteen states. Thus it claims that Missouri,
>> Kentucky, and Maryland were part of the Confederacy. They weren't.
>> Cont.
>>
>> John A. O'Neal, PCC, Bradbury Camp #149, Dept of PA
>> Other than slavery, nazism, fascism and George III, war has never solved
>> any problems.
>>
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