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From: "Paul Rands" <>
Subject: Re: [SWITZ] Endowments for the Dead
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 15:48:24 -0800


You wrote:

It says on page 261(left side) dated 23 Feb 1911, No 9367 Fridolin Streiff
born 13 Jan 1813 of Schwanden Glarus Switz died 21 March 1893..then on page
261 (right side) it says 24 Jan 1903 date of Baptismal and Confirmed,
Gottlieb Rothenbuhler is under Heir or Proxy, Relation is blank, Instance
of: Jenny Rec, Ordained by J.A. Seishman

I am really confused at the difference in the date at the top of the page
and the death date along with the baptismal date and the death date. of
course the name of the proxy is new to me and what does "Instance of: Jenny
Rec" mean?

I will appreciate all help on this one. This is a new twist on things for
me. I thought it was hard having Catholic STREIFF's and Protestant
STREIFF's and now I get to add Morman STREIFF's... So maybe this is why I
am having trouble finding any information out on the family. Would anyone
know how I would go about finding more of his family? I am really looking
for Peter STREIFF...supposed son of Fridolin. I never found anything on
www.familysearch.org. Thanks for everything.

Janet

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Janet,

My interpretation of what you've written about the record that you found:

Background: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes that
all who have lived on this earth must have the opportunity to receive
certain ordinances (including baptism and "confirmation" [laying on of hands
for the gift of the Holy Ghost]) performed in the proper way and by proper
authority. For those who have died, this can be done vicariously in an LDS
Temple. The deceased will then have an opportunity to accept the ordinance
while he/she is in the Spirit World (can be Paradise or Spirit Prison
[Hell]) while awaiting the resurrection into a degree of glory (Heaven).
You can read more on the LDS Church's offical site in its explanation of why
it is so heavily involved in genealogy.

Now my explanation: It appears that back in 1903, an LDS descendent or
relative of the deceased Fridolin Streiff arranged for Fridolin Streiff's
LDS ordinances to be done in the Logan LDS Temple. It appears that Gottlieb
Rothenbuhler acted as proxy. He may have also done the research and may
also be a descendent/relative of Fridolin Streiff. One of the persons
officiating in the ordinances was J.A. Seishman. I have no idea what
"Instance of: Jenny Rec" means. If you think it's important, you can
contact the LDS church on it's genealogy site. I've asked questions and
received timely answers on this site.

It's my understanding that most people who use, and therefore benefit from
the LDS genealogical records, are not LDS and are essentially getting a
valuable service at zero to little cost to themselves. It seems that
Fridolin Streiff was not LDS during this life. The LDS Temple ordinance
records may have provided some new information for you. From a practical
point of view you can continue your research in the appropriate Protestant
or Catholic church records in Switzerland.

Hope I've helped.

Paul Rands near Portland, Oregon

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