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From: "Raymond W. Ryan Jr." <>
Subject: Re: Fw: The Irish in America
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:13:13 -0500


Yes, it was Poyning's law in the year of 1494, which is celebrated in
history as being the 'best known legislation of mediaveval Irish
Parliament'.

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> From: Edward Andrews <>
> To:
> Cc: ; ;
> Subject: Re: Fw: The Irish in America
> Date: Thursday, February 05, 1998 12:02 PM
>
> linda Merle wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys, sorry I've not responded -- I gotta go to work too.
> > But anyway, Edward, one of the things I've noticed about my
> > family is they did not observe primogeniture. We are lucky
> > enough to be at the place of origin in the USA -- Western PA,
> > so my sister has done a lot of work with wills.
> >
> > I do not know where they picked up the habit -- is it/was
> > it common for lowlanders to observe primogeniture and was/is
> > it observed in NI today?
> >
> > Not trying to fight -- trying to learn here. We were surprised
> > that ours didn't.
> This odd bit of memory goes back to my undergraduate days when I was
> doing Irish History.
> One of the questions which was being discussed was how the Ulster
> Prods managed to be that bit better doing than their Catholic
> neighbours. Nationally it could be argued that the Catholics tended to
> be on the poorer land.
> The argument was that in the Catholic community - which was still
> bound by the Behon laws (sp?) the land was shared out among all the
> sons, while in Ulster the land went to the Eldest, which meant that
> the other children had to go off and make a living for themselves.
> It also allowed for the build-up of capital in the family.
> In Scotland, there is a fixed way in which part of a person's estate
> is divided, with only a proportion available for free distribution.
> I think - and I am dredging the very bottom of my memory, and am open
> to correction, that part of the anglicizing measures in Ireland was
> that the rules on wills was changed - was it Poining's Law? I don't
> know. Whenever it was Land in N. Ireland is usually held together and
> passed on as a block, but obviously things like death duty and
> inheritance tax has meant that things are done differently.
>
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