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From: William F Shaughnessy< >
Subject: Re: the Irish question
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 21:15:21 EST

On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:56:22 EST writes:
>In a message dated 98-02-06 11:00:28 EST, writes:
><< And now in 1998 we need to acknowledge that most Ulsterfolk adopt
> of two ethnic identities which history has given them little choice
> to do. And that the way forward is to acknowledge that and to find a
> way to forge a new identity -- which is inclusive of both ethniticies
> or some other solution which we cannot foresee because only our
> can. I don't find denying the ethnic problem's validity helpful.
> A new "Irish" ethnicity must evolve that is inclusive, not exclusive.
> Linda Merle
> >>
>Dear Linda and list,
>Knowing, ashamedly, very little about the history of the old country,
>been quietly watching the various friendly and not so friendly
>about ethnic differences, religion, and geographic location as
>determinents of
>Scot, or Irish or Scots-Irish.
>I would like to throw this into the woodpile and see how it burns:
>My ancestor William Lindsay was a Presbyterian from County Down, as
>was his
>father and grandfather. William emigrated in 1847 and married an
>He was buried in New Kensington PA in 1894. A few years ago I made
>the trip
>and visited his grave. Marking his grave is a large granite stone
>with shamrocks. The shamrocks say to me that William Lindsay was
>to be an Irishman and must have considered himself to be so too.
>It seems as tho, at least in this case, a fella born in Ireland had no
>saying he was Irish, at least in 1894. For what else could he be?


I could make some comments here, but New Ken is a little way out of
my stomping grounds. But it is Linda's home ground.


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