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From: "John R. Clarke" <>
Subject: Re: [TARVER-L] AL, GA, TX. TARVER, Smith, Youngblood, Brown, Patterson, Palmer, Brandon
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:47:58 -0400
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0206031718050.10051-100000@sick1.cirilo.net>
Hi,
I find your will of Elizabeth SMITH very interesting. I know a Noah
SMITH was living near my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL, Esq. (1809-1865) in 1860 in
Jefferson County, GA. I also know a Luther C. SMITH (b. about 1835) married
his daughter, Julia R. DANIEL (b. 1843) in 1859 in Jefferson County, GA. I
assume this Noah was the father/grandfather of this SMITH boy.
A Noah TARVER is also mentioned in your post so it seems to be a given
name in this bunch. Do you know where they were from? Were they in any
way related to the Thomas SMITH, Esq. family of Charleston, SC?
I also know a sister of my Robert W. DANIEL, a Lucretia DANIEL
(1804-1849), married Allen TARVER, son of Mark E. and grandson of Samuel
TARVER and Celia JORDAN. She is probably buried over in Russell County, AL
where she and Allen moved about 1840. After her death, Allen TARVER dumped
their kids off on Lucretia's brothers (Robert W. and James L. DANIEL) and he
moved up to Burke County, GA where we find him in 1850. He alter re-married
and I do not know what happened to him.
The PALMERS are also very closely related to my DANIEL bunch. A
Ransom PETERSON or PATTERSON is also found with my DANIEL bunch in 1860 and
the ANDERSONS are part of that little group of RHODES, RHENEY, TARVER,
MURPHEY, BYRD, HOUSTON, COLLINS, DANIEL, EVANS, CARSWELL, CLARK, BANKS and
others from the Hephzibah area of Richmond County, GA. Most of them are
tied to the Brothersville Methodist Church of that area.
Also, in 1835, my GGF, Robert W. DANIEL, was sued in Burke County, GA by
a PATTERSON. This is from the archives at the University of GA and it is
the first instance I know of where his name was in print. I know the LITTLE
family is closely collateral with the PATTERSONS. I do not know the reason
for the suit but I will bet it is over family matters. This may mean that
one of his sisters married a PATTERSON and they were suing over some estate
matter since I think Robert's father died before 1835. I think his father's
name was Robert C. DANIEL (about 1765-about 1830) and his mother's name may
well have been Penelope, possibly LANE, as stated by the VALLOTTON family.
As you probably know, Hopeful Baptist Church of Burke County, GA is also
tied to the TARVER bunch in Burke County. Some of my DANIEL relatives are
also buried there - Nancy Daniel Erwin WISE (1799-1862) is one of them. The
VALLOTTONS, also related to my DANIEL bunch in more than one way, are also
buried there.
There are also suspected DANIEL connections to Conecuh County, Alabama
location you list. There may also be some type of family connection to the
panhandle area of FL in this family -- Jackson County, FL in particular.
I would be extremely interested in discussing these families with any
TARVER/SMITH from these lines.....
John R. Clarke
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lotus Cirilo" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: [TARVER-L] AL, GA, TX. TARVER, Smith, Youngblood, Brown, Patterson,
Palmer, Brandon
> More from Tarver-Gen files ... not my line.
>
> : Georgia, Alabama, Texas
> : TARVER's mentioned in this post:
> - Robert Tarver, wife Ava (nee) Smith
> Children:
> - Noah Tarver
> - Ethelred Tarver
> - Winiford Tarver, wife of Abram Youngblood
> - Robert B. Tarver
> - Smith Tarver
> - Elizabeth (nee) Tarver, and her husband
> - Mark A Tarver
>
> -----------
> : 1853-1856
> Probate, will of Elizabeth Smith, Burke Co., Georgia Wills, p.348 as
> reprinted in Marengo Co., Alabama Records*, pp.4-5. Dated 13 Jan 1853 in
> Burke County, Georgia. Probated 21 Mar 1856 in Marengo County, Alabama.
>
> Children of Elizabeth ______ Smith as extracted from this record:
> (1) Benjamin T.L. Smith
> - exr of will, of Marengo Co. Ala.
> (2) Winifred Smith Patterson
> - wife of Robert L. Patterson of Jefferson Co., GA.
> (3) Elizabeth Smith Brown, deceased
> - w/o James S. Brown of Burke Co., GA
> (4) Ava Smith Tarver, deceased -
> - w/o Robert Tarver (Burke Co.?)
>
> ---
> P.348 Burke County, Ga. Elizabeth Smith, of said State and county,
> Will. "Having already disposed of nearly all I have to my children and
> grandchildren--" Little grandson Smith Tarver. Balance to Benjamin
> T.L. Smith who has taken care of me in my old age. Benjamin T.L. Smith
> executor. 13 Jan. 1853. Witnesses, William R. Palmer, S.W. Palmer,
> Benj. Palmer, James Brandon, Jr.
>
> Benjamin T.L. Smith shows that his mother Elizabeth Smith, late of Burke
> County, Georgia, on the 11th day of February, 1854 at his residence in
> Marengo County, made her will witnessed by R. Palmer, Samuel W. Palmer and
> Benjamin Palmer, residents of Burke County, Georgia, and James Brandon in
> Richmond County, Georgia.
>
> The said Elizabeth Smith left the following heirs at law:
>
> Your petitioner, a son, over 21, of Marengo Co. Ala.
> Winifred Smith Patterson, wife of Robert L. Patterson of Jefferson County,
> Georgia.
>
> [ CHILDREN OF MARTHA SMITH & JAMES S BROWN ]
> Benjamin Brown, 20 years,
> California (Brown?) aged 16,
> John Brown, aged 14,
> Melton Brown, age 12,
> Isabella Brown, aged 10, and
> Julia Brown, aged 6
> - all children of Martha Brown, the w/o James S. Brown,
> who was a dau of said Elizabeth Brown and who died
> before her, all of Burke County, Georgia.
>
> [ CHILDREN OF AVA SMITH & ROBERT TARVER ]
> Noah Tarver and
> Ethelred Tarver,
> - over 21, of Burke County, Georgia, and
> Elizabeth Tarver,
> - wife of Mark Tarver, over 21, Horton Co., Texas
> Winiford Youngblood
> - the wife of Abram Youngblood, aged abt 20,
> of Jefferson County, Georgia
> Robert B. Tarver
> - aged abt 18, and
> Smith Tarver,
> - abt 16, both of Burke Co., Georgia
>
> - all children of Ava Tarver
> - who was the wife of Robert Tarver
> and a dau of the testator, and who died before her.
>
> One of the witnesses stated the will was made in Burke County, Ga "and she
> left for Alabama shortly after" ion 1853. The deposition re the heirs, as
> shown, was dated 21 March, 1856.
>
> ---------
> : From Family Puzzlers, no.1165, 76 (relationship ??)
> ------
> SMITH - Mr. Jake Smith, Sr., 601 Armenia Dr., Pensacola, FL 32505 is
> searching for any information on the Conecuh Co., Alabama branch of this
> family. Who were the parents of these SMITH men:
> Dred, b. ca. 1803 in Georgia [possibly Etheldred?]
> Jacob, b. ca. 1805 in Georgia
> Eason, b. ca. 1808 in Georgia
> David, b. ca. 1812 in Georgia
> Anderson, b. ca. 1815 in Alabama
> Were they related in any way? Dred and Jacob each named their first-born
> sons RANSOM. John named his first-born JOHN. There were several Eason
> Smiths in the 1850 census of Sumter, Coweta, Meriwether and Houston Cos.,
> Georgia. Cannot establish a connection between them. Will be glad to
> share information with anyone working on Smiths in Georgia, SC, and North
> Carolina
>
> -------------
> * Note. The above probate of Elizabeth Smith comes from two pages
> originally copied from a book and included among some papers forwarded to
> me by another TARVER researcher. The source note written in the margin
> states "From: Marengo Co., Alabama Records." I have been unable to locate
> such a book and believe the pages may have been copied from one of the
> following volumes:
>
> . ALABAMA NOTES. Volumes 1 and 2, Flora D. England, 2 vols. in 1, 240 pp.,
> in all, indexed, paper (1977), repr. 1997.
>
> Compiled from a variety of county court records. These notes treat a total
> of 4,000 persons who lived in the contiguous Alabama counties of Bibb,
> Clarke, Dallas, Greene, hales, Marengo, Monroe, Perry, Shelby, Sumter, and
> Wilcox.
>
> . ALABAMA NOTES. Volumes 3 and 4, Flora D. England, 2 vols. in 1, 280
> pp. in all, indexed, paper. (1978), repr. 1997.
>
> The data presented derive primarily from county court records,
> specifically wills and deeds, as well as selected marriage books and are
> supplmented by cemetery records, census records, and numerous other
> records of miscellaneous origin. A sequel to Mrs. England's Alabama Notes,
> Vols. 1 and 2, the work at hand refers to thousands of ancestors whose
> records were culled from the counties of Autauga, Bibb, Butler, Clarke,
> Coffee, Conecuh, Dallas, Greene, Lowndes, Macon, Marengo, Monroe, Perry,
> Shelby, and Wilcox.
>
>
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