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From: "Betty King" <>
Subject: [TARVER-L] Re: TARVER-D Digest V03 #20
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 13:56:22 -0500


Hi Lotus, Cary and all the rest:

Ya'll have certainly done a lot of work on the Tarvers. I keep hoping I will find something on my Tarvers. The 1830 Greenville, SC census you mentioned for John Tarver is my 2nd great grandfather, who was a Methodist circuit rider minister. He was married to Elizabeth Jane__?___. He was born 1800 and so was Elizabeth. He died in 1853. John and Elizabeth had children: Clarinda, b. 1820: Molly Lueza, b. 1824: Theresa, b. 1826: Mathilda, b. 1828: Zilpha, b. 1830: Frances, b. 1831: William Wesley, b. 1836: Martha Elizabeth "Betsy", b. abt. 1838.

This brick wall of mine has been going on for years. Trying to find Elizabeth's maiden name and parents of both Elizabeth and John.

Any help would be appreciated.

Betty Collier King
Greenville, SC

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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:01:03 -0700
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Subject: TARVER-D Digest V03 #20

> TARVER-D DigestVolume 03 : Issue 20
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> #1 [TARVER-L] Tarver Land ["w. cary anderson" <]
> #2 Re: [TARVER-L] HICKS-TARVER, North ["Mom0f2" <>]
> #3 Re: [TARVER-L] Tarver Land [Lotus Cirilo <>]
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______________________________From: "w. cary anderson" <>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:05:22 -0600
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Subject: [TARVER-L] Tarver Land
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>
> Hi Lotus,
>
> Thanks for the postings you are doing on the acquisition of Tarver land.
>
> I am going to have to study that 1908 document and the ones proceeding. I have read them a couple of times and can't make sense of them.
> 1829 to 1908 is 79 years. That is not too long for the first transfer to take place.
>
> For example, my father received land by will of his father (my grandfather) in 1926. Some of that land was obtained before the Civil War by the grandfather of my grandfather. [That is my great-great grandfather was acquiring land in the 1850s. Some of that passed to his daughter (who died in 1938). Some had passed to my father and his brothers and sisters in 1926. All this was by will. no deeds had been made for any of this land since my great-great grandfather bought it. If the depression had not happened, my father probably would not have lost this land, and it would still be in the hands of his children and grandchildren. I know this sounds complicated, but no change of hands would be shown in deeds in over 150 years. However, the probate files at the courthouse would make it easy to see how this land moved along. It just kept being undivided land and/or transferred by particular clauses in various wills.
>
> Perhaps this is what happened to the land that was first granted to John Tarver (I believe it was 1807) in Mississippi in Amite County. Those first land grants in many cases are very difficult to find. We have searched for years for the early ones in what is now Cross County, Arkansas. These were made in the early 1820s, but it was about 1830 or so before there are any of record.
>
> Is this the same for those 1807 grants in Mississippi?
>
> Thanks again for all the hard work you put in on this Tarver family.
>
> Cary
>
______________________________From: "Mom0f2" <>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:08:22 -0500
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Subject: Re: [TARVER-L] HICKS-TARVER, Northampton NC
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>
> John Hicks, b. 10 Apr 1773 son of Robert Hicks. My info is that he married
> Elizabeth Tarver. Does anyone know who her parents were?
> Is there any indication as to when and where they were married?
> They were my GGGGGrandparents. Thank you for any help you can give.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lotus Cirilo" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:27 AM
> Subject: [TARVER-L] HICKS-TARVER, Northampton NC
>
>
> >
> > Additional detail on Tarver-Gen.
> >
> > Will of Robert Hicks
> > Northampton County, North Carolina
> >
> >
> >
> > Legatees ~
> >
> > 1. wife, name not given
> > 2. son, James Hicks
> > 3. son, John Hicks
> > 4. son, Thomas Hicks
> > 5. granddaughter, Molly Hicks
> > 6. "my four daughters" - two are not named
> > 7. daughter, Peggy Meriman
> > 8. daughter, BECKY TARVER
> >
> > Exrs. Sons, Thomas, James, and John
> > /s/ August 22, 1800
> > /p/ March Court, 1801
> > Wits. John M Binford, William Hicks, and David Marrimoon
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------
> > State of North Carolina
> > Northampton County
> >
> > LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF ROBERT HICKS
> >
> > Abstract
> >
> > ... to my son THOMAS HICKS the land and plantation he now lives on, the sd
> > land to contain 1/3 of all my land
> >
> > ... to son JAMES HICKS plantation whereon he now lives so as to contain
> > one-third of my land and sd. JAMES to pay my Extrs. 10 pounds Va. Money
> >
> > ... lend son JOHN HICKS 1/3 of my land, it being the Plantation whereon I
> > now live and at his death I give it to his Child or Children
> >
> > ... if sons cannot agree on division of my land, each son to choose a man
> > who will choose another man and sd. land to be laid off for my sd. sons
> >
> > ... to all my sons and daughters (names not given) and
> >
> > ... MOLLY HICKS, daughter of my son THOMAS, cattle each
> >
> > ... to my wife (name not given) use of my Plantation whereon I now live
> > for her lifetime and she is not to interfere with my son JOHN's interest
> >
> > ... to daughters PEGGY MERIMON and
> >
> > ... BECKY TARVER 20 shillings each
> >
> > ... residue of estate at wife's death to go to my 4 daughters and my
> > sd. grand daughter
> >
> > Extrs.: my sons THOMAS, JAMES, and JOHN Wits.: JOHN M BINFORD, WILLIAM
> > HICKS, DAVID MARRIMOON.
> >
> > SOURCE
> >
> > Northampton Co., NC WB 2, 1792-1808, Will 489, p. 215.
> > Abstract transcribed from Northampton County, North Carolina 1759-1808,
> > Genealogical Abstracts of Wills, by Margaret M. Hofmann (1975, reprint
> > 1984, Weldon, NC: Roanoke News Company), p. 112.
> >
> > NOTES
> >
> > Rebecca Hicks, b. circa 1778 in Viginia, married MICAJAH WELLS TARVER, son
> > of Billison Tarver and Selah (Salley) Vassar.
> >
> >
> > Additional detail on Tarver-Gen.
> > http://www.tarver-genealogy.net/records/probate/nc/nc_rbthicks1800.html
> >
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______________________________From: Lotus Cirilo <>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 17:20:51 -0800 (PST)
To:
Subject: Re: [TARVER-L] Tarver Land
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>
> Cary,
>
> Re: Final Certificate 986
>
> I went back through the file and another certificate identifies the
> land transaction of 1908 as dealing with the land purchases of
> John Tarver on Nov 6, 1816 - 156.54 acres
> Burket Thompson, same day - 155.61 acres
> Kenner Harvey, Aug 11, 1818 - 74.42 acres
>
> Other dates mentioned are transactions on Dec 10, 1816 & June 30, 1827 and
> official plats of survey approved on Mar 9 & May 9, 1848 --
>
> Approved for patent April 14, 1908.
>
> Thomas Mcdowell assignee for John Tarver, Burket Thompson & Kenneth
> Harvey.
>
> Will get this doc transcribed as it details the sec/range/twp etc.
>
> Still not the earliest land transactions, but will go through the file
> again. Hard on my eyes to decipher for long so ...
>
> Lotus

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