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Subject: [TARVER] More on Dempsey, John Westley, and James Jenkins Tarver
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:03:27 EST

To those who are working on the above connections to other Amite county
Tarver families.........here are some additional thoughts:

1) 12-14-1801 John Tarver was set apart as a deacon and licensed to preach ,
Methodist Episcopal Church by Bishop Francis Asbury, State of South Carolina
(1801 Orphan's Court record --Amite coutnty, Ms. Vol. 1 pgs 62-64)

2) September 20, 1806.....when the Methodist Episcopal Church held its
conference in Green county, Tn. at Ebenezer Church in September, 1806.......the
Mississippi preachers were all reappointed. In addition, John Tarver went to
Claiborne with Nathan Barnes. The Claiborne Circuit covered an area in
Mississippi between Vicksburg and Natchez, mostly the counties of Claiborne and
Jefferson.(Ms Gen Web )

3) Dempsey Tarver as per land patent # 4528 dated 11-10-1840 states on the
document that he is from Claiborne county, Ms.

4) Thomas Tarver as per land patent # 1395 dated 4-10-1826 states on the
document that he is from Claiborne county, Ms.

5) Allen Tarver signed a petition in Claiborne county, Ms. in 1808.

6) Mary Elizabeth, daughter of John, married James Godbold and they had Anna
Godbold who was born in Claiborne county, Ms. in 1809.

7) In the previous post I made regarding the Benjamin Tarver and Nancy A.
Odom Tarver who both died in Claiborne county, Ms. in 1809 as per Odom bible
records...it was revealed that this Benjamin was the father of John Westley,
Dempsey and James Jenkins, the three orphan sons.

8) At 1809, these three sons would have been 10-15 at the most, so they
would have most likely been living in the household of an older Tarver. As per
the 1810 Amite county census and as per Marcia Cowen's information.....the only
household which it could have been was that of John Tarver. The 1810 Amite
county census included John, himself and John, Jr.. Thomas B. and the three
orphan sons of Benjamin. Nearby was Allen Tarver, another son of John, and Nancy
Tarver, the wife of West Tarver, another son who died in 1809. Also, in the
household of John was Sarah Tarver, another daughter who eventually married
Isaac Shaddick in 1816. As noted above Mary Elizabeth had married James Godbold
prior to 1810 and was in Claiborne county.

>From this line of reasoning......it would appear that Old John Tarver was
licensed to preach while in South Carolina in 1801 and made his way to the
Claiborne Circuit in 1806 prior to locating to Amite county in 1807. At 1810 John
was unmarried. He had sons: West (who died in 1809), Allen, Thomas B. and
John, Jr. ( and possibly,Benjamin who died in Claiborne county in 1809) His
daughters were Mary Elizabeth and Sarah. He may have either been the uncle or
grandfather to the three orphans sons: John Westley, James Jenkins, and Dempsey
of Benjamin and Nancy Tarver.

The Old Natchez District was made up of the following counties: Warren,
Claiborne, Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, Wilkinson, and Amite. It may be that old
records could be obtained in some manner from that district, although I am not
certain of that. The information from Claiborne county, which seems to be key
in this particular family, may be rather scant. .

What appears to be developing and may have already developed in some research
is this:

Tarver families in Amite in 1810 all seem to go to Old John Tarver as noted
above. Then in about 1811, Old Benjamin comes into Amite and another family
connects to him. I am trying to connect Old John and Old Benjamin. I had
thought earlier that Old Benjamin was a son , but now with the information from
Claiborne county, Ms. about the other Benjamin it most likely is not like that.
I am advancing along the line that Old Benjamin was a son of Thomas Tarver
shown on the 1800 S.C. census. At this point I am not sure if Thomas of
Barnwell and Old John of Barnwell mentioned above were brothers or first cousins.
>From what has been developed previously and submitted to Dames; Old John was
stated to be a son of Samuel who died in 1778 or so in Northampton county, N.C.
However in his will, no mention is made of a son Thomas. The three sons
mentioned were Samuel, John, and Benjamin. So how does Thomas connect? He may be
a son of Benjamin b. 1724 and who resided in Northampton copunty and married
Martha (Moore). If so, then Old John of Barnwell and Old Thomas of Barnwell
were first cousins as it is stated that Samuel and Benjamin were brothers and
resided adjacent to one another in Northampton county, N.C. in the mid 1700's.

Any thoughts are ongoing discussions about these families would be greatly
appreciated. It seems little by little some progress is evolving. The work of
all those interested in making these conncections is appreciated. Let me know
of any clues or tidbits that may be out there as well. Thanks.

Cordially,

David A. Tarver
age 60
near Tulsa, Ok.











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