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Subject: Re: [THOMPSON] b1caez01 ...DERBYSHIRE, ENGLAND, THOMPSON...LINKS ... sharing time and resources for a better world ;)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 12:05:20 -0400
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This note is as much a reply to the request as an outline of how my brain works, when I do research on the net. There might be some hints for newbies as to how to find info there. There rest of you can delete this note if you are not interested. P.S., ignore spelling...no matter how many times I check, I miss a couple. I can't make any guarantees, but I shall give it a go today. I will give you an couple hours of my time, on the net, and forward what is found, if anything. As I am in Canada, it does us both an injustice not having immediate access to the British files. I have, though, found some researchers in Australia seem to have a good handle on U.K. research. You may consider giving them a try. My "attack" shall be as I would normally start out doing... for the following line of key words, all joined [using COPERNIC]: Thomson, Thompson, Tomson, London, Derbyshire, genealogy ...in different groupings and combinations. I shall check the IGI first, if there is nothing there, then it is doubtful that much else exists, elsewhere. I would also check on, and get a list of, all libraries within a few miles of your "point of origin," along with museums, historical archives, and universities...they all may have web sites, librarians, and repositories of local material, that may be of help. Contact the librarian, historian or archivist for assistance. Mail, call on the telephone, or contact via e-mail with your needs. You may want to investigate other surname line, not immediately apparent as connected, from the same area of the location under study. Since populations were relatively small, once, families intermarried much more than today. Whereas, on first look, a surname does not appear to have a connection, it just may. And a person investigating a totally unrelated line, may have relevant information to share. Some of the sites will, on first glance appear to be unrelated, but search them anyway, just in case. Visit each link, and then go to the Browser's Edit, Find...allow the browser to do a name sweep of each link's pages -- saves time. So, here is what was found in my first sweep, for just the key words Thompson, Thomson, Tomson, London, Derbyshire, and genealogy [in your searching, leave off the spaces, and do them in various combinations]: --apologies for repeats first off...and don't get excited by the number, that is just what turned up...they all may be useless...that is the chance we take in this "art" of research... [NB: each site may not be useful, in and of itself, but it may have links to other more useful sites.] http://www.sog.org.uk/prc/derbyshire.html http://www.50connect.co.uk/index.asp?main=http://www.50connect.co.uk/50c/16.asp http://www.kittybrewster.com/ancestry/duff.htm http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/lonstr_d.html http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/sources/local.shtml http://www.michaelduke.mcmail.com/dat0.htm http://www.family-history.co.uk/fh_contents.html http://www.bristol-information.co.uk/genebook.asp http://www.maitland.anthony.net/dolman02.htm http://website.lineone.net/~thompsonb/d_1b.html http://www.eastbournefhs.org.uk/library01.htm http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=12 http://www.harrogate.co.uk/harrogate-band/misc23.htm http://www.btinternet.com/~jennifer.dixon/page40.html http://www.genealogy-links.co.uk/html/one.name.html http://website.lineone.net/~thompsonb/d_1c.html http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=21 http://mss.library.nottingham.ac.uk/cats/port_londonpll.html http://www.curiousfox.com/history/derbyshire_7.html http://homepages.tesco.net/~townsleyb/TownsFH/html/dat23.htm http://www.winster-ancestry.com/jmarsden http://www.towball.freewire.co.uk/link.htm http://www.odfhs.freeserve.co.uk/memint/members.html http://www.africana.co.uk/collections/basil/cat0_3.shtml http://www.genealogy-links.co.uk/html/looking.3.4.html http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jeffery.knaggs/Instuts.html http://www.genuki.org.uk./big/eng/YKS/ http://freespace.virgin.net/richard.tetley/dat83.html http://www.scilutions.co.uk/Blad000t.htm http://www.winster-ancestry.com/jmarsden/ http://www.sog.org.uk/prc/derbyshire.html http://www.englishorigins.com/Examples/Thompson_Family_Records.HTML http://www.ualberta.ca/~droles/link/geneal.html http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/Add%20ENG%20Drb.html http://publish.uwo.ca/~fpass/genealogy.html http://www.wingfamily.ca/genealogy/dat4.htm http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/ THIS LOOKS LIKE AN EXCELLENT LING TO DERBYSHIRE RESOURCES http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localitydetails&subject=9914&subject_disp=England%2C_Derbyshire&columns=*%2C180%2C0 http://www.burness.ca/gr010001.htm http://www.cyndislist.com/eng-dby.htm http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/que534/dat0.html http://www.timjanzen.com/family/groups/gp1315.html http://www.genuki.org.uk/Societies/England.html http://www.burness.ca/main0008.htm http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/derbys.htm http://www.teamapproach.ca/genealogy/Britain.htm http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/Add%20ENG%20Drb.html http://www.wingfamily.ca/genealogy/dat52.htm http://www.timjanzen.com/family/groups/gp1065.html http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Derbyshire/ http://www.storm.ca/~ateather/tbroken.htm http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/ http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/abgensoc/holdings.html http://www.burness.ca/main0009.htm http://www.boon.co.uk/directory/846__england/2595__derbyshire/2623__society_and_culture/2624__genealogy/ http://www.afhs.ab.ca/aids/geographic/uk.html http://www.census-online.com/links/England/Derbyshire/ http://directory.google.com/Top/Regional/Europe/United_Kingdom/England/Derbyshire/Society_and_Culture/Genealogy/ http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ai020/Profile.html http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/england/derbyshire/ http://www.bifhsgo.ca/classics/classics_jreid.htm http://www.storm.ca/~ateather/emaildir.htm http://members.shaw.ca/justgen/dby.htm http://www.legacyfamilytree.ca/ODoherty/67.htm http://www.hayward-logan.com/sheane/sheane.htm http://www.hicksons.org/others.html http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/PR092.htm http://www.jrredfern.com/genealogy/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~aek740/surname.html http://lfhhs.org.uk/members/ http://users.ox.ac.uk/~malcolm/genuki/big/eng/KEN/pigot1839surnames.html http://www.wis.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/chilmark.htm http://www.twinwolf.net/~tsb/ged-html/dat36.html http://iupjournals.org/vicbib/1999/1999VIbib.html http://www.lrfhs.org.uk/tuv.htm http://www.jrredfern.com/genealogy/notes.html http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Genealogy/JADfh/pafx2.htm http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/MAIL-1.htm http://members.aol.com/eleanorcol/ColsonMarriages2.html http://www.staffordshire-knot.com/c.htm http://www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lodts9.htm http://www.wis.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/swindncc.htm http://www.staffordshire-knot.com/s.htm http://webtext.library.yale.edu/beinflat/osborn.cshelf.htm http://www.sog.org.uk/vg/vg156str.htm http://iupjournals.org/vicbib/1999/1999VIbib.html http://www.bbti.bham.ac.uk/Sources.htm http://www.staffordshire-knot.com/c.htm OTRAM SEARCH THE FOLLOWING PERSON's LINKS WOULD BE WELL WORTH THE SEARCH, and CONTACT THIS PERSON...THEY APPEAR TO BE A VERY HIGH POWERED OTRAM RESEARCHER, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF HITS THE SEARCH ENGINE RECEIVED...here are just a couple, to save me time... pop into your search engine: Otram,Derbyshire,genealogy as your key words, no spaces...I have noted just a few of the many... http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/genuki/DBY/Eyam/MIs.html http://www.wishful-thinking.org.uk/DB41/DBY/Outram04.html THE FOLLOWING APPEARS TO BE A GOLDMINE OF LINKS FOR OTRAM made by another family researcher http://www.genuki.org.uk./org/PageStats/counties/DBY/links.txt There are many more links, but I have run out of time...they all appear to have been mounted by the same group of persons... http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/EyamWoodlands/Census51-1.html http://www.n.f.wilson.btinternet.co.uk/570-582.htm IGI...search ...there are three entries for a marriage citing for Debra Outram, md to Samuel Thompson. Note the name spellings at each citation. The additional info at the bottom of the entry tells the researcher that there are three persons on line, researching her. The next task is to find out whom. Then check the batch file number. That is always a good source for "others." Debora Outram Female Event(s): Birth: About 1783, Of St George Hanover Square, Westminster, London, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Samuel Tompson Marriage: 17 MAR 1804; St George Hanover Square, Westminster, London, England Source Information: IGI Visit [ http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/sealing.htm ] for a good read on the topic of "sealing." "Sealings for the dead, couples and children (includes some living spouses and children) 1943-1970; heir indexes, 1943-1965" Apparently, a LDS member has "attached" him/her self to this person as a potential relative, and is "sealing" there fate, re pentacost. "As most people who are familiar with Mormonism know, dedicated Mormons believe in sealing women to men and children to their parents for all eternity. Few people, however, are aware of the fact that the early Mormons sealed living men to other men in an unusual ceremony known as "the law of adoption." Thus a man could have any number of men adopted to himself as his sons for eternity." "In theory the importance of adoption lay in the validation of one's sonship in the family of God." Although a noble gesture, the article expounds on other problems with this tenet. Batch Number: A457488 Normally you could check out the batch file for more info, but in this case there does not appear to be a link. Sheet: 00 Source Call No.: 457488-457492 Type: Book So, I went to Hugh Wallis' excellent Batch File site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyDerby_(A-M).htm#PageTitle and checked out Derbyshire, Eyam and found the BF numbers to be Eyam C054431 1787-1868 [these would be christening dates] M054431 1787-1837 and 1850-1852 [these would be marriage dates] I clicked on each high-lighted link to be taken to the actual batch file references at the IGI. Unfortunately, there was no Daniel found. Reason: no one is doing research on him. The data has not been mounted to the IGI yet and is therefore, not available. He is not to be found at this batch file reference but exists somewhere else. BUT, let us not be dissuaded...there are two Thompsons here...and they may be related to Daniel...think positive. There are two different Thompson families represented here...in such a small location, the odds of them being related are very high...go with it. Elizabeth and James are probably cousins. 1. ELIZABETH THOMPSON Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 12 NOV 1807; Eyam, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: MATTHEW THOMPSON Mother: MARY Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call #: Type: Printout Call #: Type: C054431 1787 - 1810 0428912 Film 6905194 Film C054431 1810 - 1868 0498081 Film NONE Sheet: 00 2. JAMES THOMPSON Male Event(s): Birth: 13 APR 1844 Christening: 12 MAY 1844; Eyam, Derby, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: WILLIAM THOMPSON Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call #: Type: Printout Call #: Type: C054431 1787-1810 0428912 Film 6905194 Film C054431 1810-1868 0498081 Film NONE Sheet: 00 O.K., that was two hours...it's all yours now. Good luck and best regards... Al ======================================================================== Laurie Thompson wrote: > > Al . Thankyou for your interest ... My Samuel was born c1777, married > Deborah Outram, born Eyam, Derbyshire, at St. George`s Church, London, 1804 > and moved to Weston Under Lizard and worked as a carpenter/cabinetmaker for > the Earl of Bradford 1804 till death 1850 . W u L is between Shrewsbury and > Birmingham . The earl has a house near St. George`s church London . cheers > from Australia . Laurie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "b1caez01" <> > To: "Laurie Thompson" <> > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [THOMPSON] bicaez01 > > > Laurie: can you elaborate a wee bit...especially the bit about the > > "Lizard?" And thanks for the kind words...Al > > > > Laurie Thompson wrote: > > > > > > Hi all .We must congratulate and thank Al for his great work and to > those who helped . I am sure it will be a help to other Thompsons , how I > wish I had a like person who would do this for my Samuel Thompson who died > at Weston under lizard Staffordshire England in 1850 for I am the only > person in the whole world who is researching him .I am on every conceivable > list and never had a reply . > > > Laurie Thompson Australia > > > > > > ==== THOMPSON Mailing List ==== > > > The Searchable Surname Archives for Rootsweb lists can be found at > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

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