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From: Gregory W Stutes <>
Subject: [TIGNOR-L] Re: Stutes Home Page (fwd)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:48:29 -0600 (CST)


A long time ago Sally e-mailed and invited me to share my info. In
particular, Thomas Tigner birthdate. I was sooo busy. I started to help,
but basicly gave up. Dave Brown e-mailed and we renewed the Thomas
birthdate talk. I am finally on the mailing list so I am going to try and
open our talk in this forum. (I hope this is okay Dave) Take a look
below. It is chaos, but so is genealogy. Can anyone help us? And a
final question. Where are the pre-Ohio Tigners from or better yet where
did the Stutes family (my line) come from.

Have fun with our mess,

Greg and Dave(but he does not know this is going to be posted)

> Mr. Stutes,

>
> Hi. I've been learning from your "Stutes Home Page" this past week. Nice
> job, I appreciate the help. I believe my family intersects yours at America
> Tigner.
>
> I subscribe to a Tignor mailing list (there's also a web page) on rootsweb.
> The list/page caretaker, Sally Jenkins, and I have a difference of opinion
> on Thomas Tigner's birthdate. Sally feels he was born in 1790. I've held
> to 1810 based upon census from 1860, 1870, and 1880. You have March 24,
> 1810 (even a month and day) with a source of "Five Generations Chart, Morgan
> County". What and where is the Five Generations Chart?
>
> You and Sally give Thomas Tigner a second child named Lewis. I've never
> seen any evidence of Lewis. I have Frances L. Giliger from a list of
> children Thomas made on pension papers (Thomas Jr died in war). I first
> thought female Frances was married to ? Giliger. Now I wonder if Frances L.
> is male Francis Lewis, but I can't explain the last name Giliger, unless he
> was an adopted child. Can you shed any light on this?
>
> Merry Christmas.
>
> Dave Brown
> Friendswood, TX
>
>
> Descendants of Thomas Tigner
>
> 1 Thomas Tigner 1810 - 1893
> .. +Polly Ann Moore 1811 - 1881
> ....... 2 William Tigner 1827 -
> ........... +Rachel Belinda Trobee 1835 -
> ................. 3 Thomas Tigner 1855 -
> ................. 3 Mary Tigner 1857 -
> ....... 2 Frances L. Tigner 1830 -
> ........... +? Giliger 1830 -
> ....... 2 Mary Ann Tigner 1833 - 1918
> ........... +John Brown 1833 - 1902
> ................. 3 John T. Wesley Brown 1854 -
> ..................... +Mary Virginia Streets 1860 -
> ........................... 4 John Wesley Brown 1880 -
> ........................... 4 Edward Brown 1882 -
> ........................... 4 Marion Brown 1883 -
> ........................... 4 William Brown 1884 -
> ........................... 4 Daniel Brown 1885 -
> ........................... 4 Maude Brown 1887 -
> ........................... 4 Hazel Brown 1888 -
> ........................... 4 Lillie Brown 1890 -
> ........................... 4 Ollie Brown 1891 -
> ................. 3 George W. Brown 1855 -
> ..................... +Emma F. (Brown) 1855 -
> ........................... 4 Arthur H. Brown 1877 -
> ........................... 4 Belle Brown 1879 -
> ................. 3 Alonzo Lewis Brown 1857 - 1907
> ..................... +Mary Marie Carnes 1868 - 1948
> ........................... 4 Bertha Mae (Bert) Brown 1889 - 1965
> ........................... 4 William L. Brown 1891 - 1909
> ........................... 4 Alfred Leroy (Pickle) Brown 1894 - 1986
> ........................... 4 Harry Vernor Brown, Sr. 1895 - 1970
> ........................... 4 Blanche M. Brown 1897 - 1983
> ........................... 4 Alonzo Edmund (Ted) Brown 1902 - 1988
> ............................... +Lelia (Lillian) Chloe Thompson 1902 - 1969
> ........................... *2nd Wife of Alonzo Edmund (Ted) Brown:
> ............................... +Clara Thelma (Toots) Allton 1906 - 1998
> ..................................... 5 Thelma Jean Brown 1930 -
> ......................................... +James Richard Wilson 1928 -
> ..................................... 5 Mary Joan Brown 1932 -
> ......................................... +Donald Dillon 1929 -
> ..................................... 5 Theodore Allen Brown 1935 -
> ......................................... +Jo Ann Wells 1935 -
> ..................................... 5 Robert Lee Brown 1936 -
> ......................................... +Margaret Jean Helmick 1936 -
> ............................................... 6 Cynthia Roxann Brown
> 1956 -
> ............................................... 6 Thomas Wayne Brown
> 1958 -
> ...Here I am........................... 6 David Eugene Brown 1960 -
> ............................................... 6 Pamela Sue Brown 1962 -
> ..................................... 5 Donald Edmund Brown 1938 -
> ......................................... +Joyce (Brown) 1941 -
> ..................................... 5 Jane Ann Brown 1946 -
> ......................................... +Fred Woestendiek 1930 -
> ..................................... 5 Rebecca Sue Brown 1950 -
> ......................................... +David Watton 1948 -
> ..................................... *Friend of Rebecca Sue Brown:
> ......................................... +John Tucker 1950 -
> ................. 3 Harriet M. Brown 1861 - 1877
> ................. 3 America L. Brown 1863 - 1904
> ..................... +Joseph Rowland 1863 -
> ........................... 4 Howard E. Rowland 1884 -
> ........................... 4 Dana Rowland 1887 -
> ........................... 4 Elizabeth Rowland 1889 -
> ........................... 4 Mamie L. Rowland 1892 -
> ................. 3 Sarah Lizzie Brown 1867 -
> ..................... +James Matheny 1867 -
> ................. 3 Mary Ann Brown 1870 - 1880
> ................. 3 Rachel Brown 1872 -
> ..................... +William Matheny 1872 -
> ....... 2 America Tigner 1834 - 1898
> ........... +Joseph S. Stutes 1815 - 1880
> ................. 3 Eli Wesley Stutes 1852 - 1921
> ..................... +Mary Cathern Phillips 1857 - 1936
> ........................... 4 Martha J. Stutes 1876 -
> ........................... 4 Nina E. Stutes 1877 - 1939
> ............................... +Charles Clifton 1875 -
> ........................... 4 Carthau Samuel Stutes 1880 - 1961
> ........................... 4 Alva P. (Tony) Stutes 1882 - 1974
> ............................... +Mabel Copeland 1885 -
> ........................... 4 Millie M. Stutes 1885 - 1971
> ............................... +Ora A. Hartley 1880 -
> ........................... 4 George W. Stutes 1888 - 1888
> ........................... 4 Harry F. Stutes 1890 -
> ............................... +Nellie Enoch 1890 -
> ........................... 4 Eura A. Stutes 1894 - 1984
> ............................... +Howard D. Reed 1894 -
> ........................... 4 Hiram Sylvester (Sam) Stutes 1897 - 1972
> ............................... +Fay Ribble 1900 -
> ................. 3 Erastus H. Stutes 1853 -
> ................. 3 Sarah Elizabeth (Sadie) Stutes 1854 -
> ..................... +Samuel Dutro 1844 -
> ................. 3 Mary Jane Stutes 1857 -
> ..................... +Daniel W. Eveland 1848 -
> ................. 3 Alice Adelia Stutes 1862 -
> ..................... +John Floyd Eveland 1862 -
> ................. 3 Clarissa A. Stutes 1864 -
> ................. 3 Emma M. Stutes 1867 -
> ................. 3 Edith Ellen (Ellie) Stutes 1869 -
> ..................... +Ernest H. Clifton 1868 -
> ....... 2 Harriet Rebecca Tigner 1836 -
> ........... +Richard Vandegriff 1836 -
> ....... 2 John M. Tigner 1838 -
> ....... 2 Sarah Jane Tigner 1844 - 1900
> ........... +Alonzo Brown 1837 - 1900
> ....... 2 Richard Tigner 1847 -
> ........... +Sarah Jane Rood 1846 -
> ................. 3 Mary J. Tigner 1865 -
> ................. 3 Thomas Tigner 1868 -
> ................. 3 Martha R. Tigner 1870 -
> ................. 3 Elizabeth M. Tigner 1872 -
> ................. 3 John W. Tigner 1875 -
> ................. 3 Joseph Tigner 1879 -
> ....... 2 Thomas Tigner 1847 - 1865
> ....... 2 Rachel C. Tigner 1851 -
> ........... +Josiah Mortimer Clifton 1855 -
> ....... 2 Elizabeth M. Tigner 1853 -
> ....... 2 Thomas Tigner 1858 -
> ....... 2 William Tigner 1864 -
>
>
>
>
>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:00:03 -0600 (CST)
From: Gregory W Stutes <>
To: Dave Brown <>
Cc: Gregory W Stutes <>
Subject: Re: Stutes Home Page

Where did you get your info down my line. Some of the nicknames look
likestuff that might have written. As for the Tigners, we have alot to
sort
through
First, there are two Thomas Tigners buried in Bloom Twp. Neither grave
has a birth date. One death is ****** 29, 1864 ae ***** (GAR) the ***
are the unreadable parts. The second one is Nov 19, 1893 CoF 2nd Reg VA
Cav

I think the second one is related to me, but wait!

Look in the 1860 Census Thomas 50 M Farmer VA (That guy was born about
1810)
his family is listed as
Polly 48 F
Betty 7 F
Rachel 9 F
Richard 19M
Thomas 13 M (Here is another Thomas)
Thomas 1 M (Another Thomas? Who is this Thomas)

By 1880

Thomas Tignor 70
and Polly A 68 Lived with another family

Richard Tignor 34 (Strange I assume this is the 19 year in the above
family. He just did not want to become 40 :)

His family is also listed with another Thomas 12
***************************************************
1870 has another twist

It is listed as Thomas Tigner Sr. 61 (The birthdate looks like the same
guy)

He is living with Mary Ann (also know as Polly) who 58

Also is a 17 year old Elisabeth M (I do not have her as a daughter. Is
she the last daughter or hired help or who?
******************************************************
Last is 1850

Thomas 40 (Correct age)
Mary (37 (one year off must be the same)
Mary A 17 (No idea)
William 20 (The oldest son?)
Harriet 14 (No idea)
John M (No Idea)
Sarah J 8
Thelma 6
Rachel C 6mon (must be one of the daughters

I am not done!

I have the death records from Morgan Ct

They say Thos.Tigner Date of death I893, II, 19 (The 1 key must have
also died) Place of death was listed as Bloom Twp. The birth is strange
the year is listed as I03 the mo is not readable, but it could be a 3 or
an 8 or something. the day is the 25. I assume the unreadable number is a
3 and the strange I03 is an excited clerk trying to type March 25, 1810.
He was born in Petersberg, Va

And Last the 5 Generation Chart is a book compiled by Morgan Co Genealogy
Group

The chart is from Richard Clifton 55176 Iowa Rd, Cumberland, OH and it
is dated as Dec, 6, 1989. My uncle says he has some big dogs so do not go
up and know on his door.

he has Thomas Tigner 24 Mar. 1810 to 11/19/1993 (Looks okay to me)

Mary Ann "Polly" 1812 to 5/3/1881

Do you understand all of my info? If you do, email because I am confused.

As for Lewis? I can not find him anywhere, but ... I do not know.
Wait. I think it was from Sally

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