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From: "Cheri Casper" <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Entering Citation Detail
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 17:46:26 -0700
References: <001401c141ce$db7c2820$ae19c740@prodigy.net> <3BB5F82B.40FF34CD@bellatlantic.net>


Neil S. Smith - I do it a bit differently from Bob Gillis. I reserve a CD
to record what element a particular source shows. Every source that I have
has a CD in both the long fn and short fn forms dedicated to this (whether I
choose to use it or not at a later point, as the need arises); I set these
up at the Source Definition Level. So in your case, I would cite the census
and put in one CD (shows first & last names) [and I do use the parentheses
to separate this tidbit from the main part of the citation]. Then when I
entered the marriage license, I would put (shows first, middle initial &
last names).

Here are some sample "previews" from a book showing how I set these up in
the output forms (in the finished footnotes your examples --census &
marriage license -- would be in the spot for [CD2]):

Long Footnote:
[HID:]CD1=p#, CD2=("shows" comment), CD3=detailed comment[:HID]Charles B.
Heinemann, [ITAL:]"First Census" of Kentucky 1790[:ITAL] (Baltimore:
Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1981)<, [CD1]>< [CD2]>. Hereinafter
cited as [ITAL:]"First Census" KY[:ITAL]<. [CD3]>.

Short Footnote:
[HID:]CD1=p#, CD2=("shows" comment), CD3=detailed comment[:HID]Heinemann,
[ITAL:]"First Census" KY[:ITAL]<, [CD1]>< [CD2]><. [CD3]>.

The information at the beginning of the source that is encapsulated within
hidden text codes is the cheat sheet that I use so I can remember what each
CD is dedicated to. These show when you open up the MSL.

By including the information in your output forms, you can also get these in
your printed reports. This may not be important to some, but it is my
preferred way.

Cheri Casper


----- Original Message -----
From: "bob gillis" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TMG] Entering Citation Detail


> "Neil S. Smith" wrote:
> >
> snip
>
> > I tried this and don't think it is practical. For instance, if I attach
a
> > source for someone's name and reference a census entry, it usually only
> > provides the first and last name. If later I find a marriage license
that
> > also includes the middle initial and add that source citation to the
name
> > tag, I can't show which of the two sources provided the MI since I've
not
> > actually entered the source citation for later reference.
> >
> snip
>
> I have been off line for a while and did see some replies on this
> thread. I just have a comment on this one paragraph.
>
> I and some other users have a surety convention that helps to sort out
> the name sources. Since the name tag has no way to provide a surety
> that the person in the source is the person I am concerned with, I use
> the person surety only for the value of the name. If the source has a
> first, middle and surname the surety is 3, if first, MI and surname a 2
> and a first and surname only a 1 and given or surname only a 0.
>
> With this convention the Census would have surety of 1 and the marriage
> license a 2. Another document such as a vital record with the middle
> name spelled out would have a 3.
>
> Most of the people who read a report are not interested in the souring.
> You are and this gives you the information. If someone else is
> interested you can show the sureties and explain any conventions used.
>
> I use a similar convention for dates and places.
>
>
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