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From: Robin Lamacraft <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Genogram chart of social & biological relationships
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:04:48 +0930
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At 20:37 27/04/02 -0500, HDarrell wrote:
>At 01:25 PM 4/27/02 -0700, Ida Skarson McCormick wrote:
>>I have long thought (before TMG, which I have used since 1993) that a
>>genealogical program should allow for groupings such as a ship's
>>passengers (e.g., the Mayflower), a census household, a business, a
>>military unit, a school, a church congregation, a wagon train, a small
>>community, etc. (as you put it, the non-person persona), which would
>>function like persons in some respects. Flags could be used to designate
>>the members of the group. Historians as well as genealogists would find
>>grouping a useful feature. I like your ideas for separate tag groups.
>I think there is little disagreement about the usefulness of "groupings"
>as a general idea. But TMG already handles "groupings" pretty well, using
>custom tags (well, except for the two principal limitation thing).

I am not convinced that TMG's handling of groupings is "fairly well". It
does not allow you create lifelines of events for other objects or to group
persons but with some built in side effects. It is this distinction that is
important in social modeling compared with blood-line modeling.

Imagine, for instance, that I wanted to use TMG to study the social
interaction (and inter-marriage, etc) of the population of a small island
over the period 1750 to 1920. The landholding (crofts) and the transference
of tenancy of these (semi-heritable), the occupants of the dwellings over
time, the forced emigrations, the changes to the structures (building,
bridges, ferries, etc), the changes to employment in the vicinity and the
spread of disease within this community are all aspects that I would like
to model within TMG. So I would like to have a number of overlapping
groupings of persons and of objects that I could use to advantage. I could
use all this now. The output of social snapshots (e.g. genograms) would be
an aid to reporting this research but it would not be the only form of
output that I would want to be driven by these groupings and the use of
lifelines of events for non-person objects. The history of a croft or a
community can be presented in many ways. All of this is complicated by
non-surname (patronymic) person names and the bi-lingual nature of the region.

Because TMG already most person-oriented things very well, and because
there is no *effective* alternative software package, I am left with
encouraging extra features to make it suitable tool for the social
historian to use.

Robin Lamacraft (Adelaide, Australia)

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