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From: Greg Surratt <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] TMG5.30 problems and auto updating in WinXP
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:48:53 -0500
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Cheri, I've copied your post in here - inadvertently had personal
reply to: set.

I am painfully aware that most software modifies the OS - I am having
to reconfigure 57 machines at work because "something" installed older
operating system files which disables one of our key pieces of
software. We've identified the files - it wasn't a virus - just an
installation.

Anyways . . . What I meant wasI don't like software that requires
that ~I~ modify my operating system settings. For example:

I don't like software that requires I set my screen resolution to 640
x 480 or 256 colors.

I don't like software that requires I open a port to the Internet to
pass data by modifying the settings in my firewall.

And I don't like software that requires that I give up any anti-virus
protection. Especially if I were on a full time connection. We
REQUIRE daily checks for updates at work because the people that make
our rules say we are not allowed to use the automatic update feature.

I'd like to make two points here to bring TMG back into the topic:

1) Consider the number of TMG users who understand they need to have
an antivirus program but may not be savvy enough to understand that it
doesn't work by magic - turn off automatic updates and you eventually
lose the protection. I don't know how many there are in this
category.

and

2) I don't really believe the automatic updates are the real culprit.
Neither is TMG, necessarily, just a combination of OS, TMG and some
other settings/configurations/programs. Most users won't fall into
the exact pattern that requires that automatic updates be turned off
to use TMG. Bob will probably have a tough time chasing this one down
because it is only affecting a few users.

Greg
>Greg Surratt -- Almost every piece of software that you install modifies
>your OS in some way; if you don't want to install any software that modifies
>your OS, then you aren't going to have very much software on your computer.
>Besides which the live updates for Windows *do* modify your OS; that is
>their purpose.
>
>We are not suggesting that you NOT update your antivirus nor use your
>Windows Live Update, we are merely suggesting that you turn them off when
>you use TMG or that you turn them off from the automatic mode and instead
>opt to make manual updates. Unless you are running your e-mail program or
>are surfing the web while you are using TMG you don't need to have Norton
>running in the first place when using TMG. And Windows updates can be done
>at any time you choose; if you leave your internet connection on overnight
>you can schedule this for the middle of the night so it doesn't interfer
>with anything. Do you really want your OS to be "upgraded" while you are
>trying to use TMG--having Windows try to write different things
>simultaneously, especially since one of them is an essential component of
>your whole computer system? In essence, do you *really* want to be
>modifying your OS while you are trying to have TMG record your data? If
>not, then you should not have the Windows Live Update running in the
>background. IMHO.


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