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From: "James P. Colgate" <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Re: Sentence Help
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 18:06:16 -0500
References: <CHEMKKAJHOKJPIEOPLKDKEEGDBAA.clcasper@sprynet.com> <001201c2a47e$77c92260$a1b83a41@oemcomputer> <005901c2a48b$5240c0e0$d7b9fea9@MYRNICE>


Thanks for clarifying the extra space. So now I think I can explain why
when I replaced [P1] instead of [P], and then ran the Individual Narrative
("IN") Report to test the results, the extra space disappeared. That is
because the use of [P1] instead of [P] caused the IN to begin with the
principal's full name, followed by a period -- then the *second* "sentence"
was birth sentence. So therefore the birth sentence was no longer the first
occurrence. And then that must be why the space disappeared.

----- Original Message -----
From: "myrnice" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TMG] Re: Sentence Help


> James
>
> The problem is that the birth tag is normally the first tag in the tag
list.
> TMG always prints the name of the person at the start of the output with a
> space after the name. It does not matter what tag you use as the first tag
> this is always true.
>
> When the first tag (birth) starts with a variable that is the full name of
> the individual, it is ignored and the rest of the tag is appended to the
> name already supplied (with a space after it). This is where the extra
space
> is coming from and I have reported it to the developers.
>
> Myrnice
>
> "James P. Colgate" wrote on Sunday, December 15, 2002 4:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [TMG] Re: Sentence Help
>
>
> > Cheri,
> > I was curious, so I also tried a bunch of different sentences. I can
> > confirm your results -- I always got a space after [P] and before the
> comma
> > of [PAR]. However, for some odd reason, using [P1] works just as
> > expected -- with no space. So unless Elsa has some unusual sentence
> > structures for the birth of twins, she should be able to use [P1] to fix
> the
> > problem. Looks like a bug, since [P] and [P1] yield different results
in
> > the same circumstances(!?!)
> >
> > James Colgate
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cheri Casper" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 3:03 PM
> > Subject: RE: [TMG] Re: Sentence Help
> >
> >
> > > James - I believe I have tested every possible combination of spaces
and
> > > variables and you still seem to generate an unnecessary/unwanted space
> > > before the comma following an individual's name when the name of the
> > parents
> > > are also included in the sentence.
> > >
> > > CheriC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James P. Colgate [mailto:]
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 11:05 AM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: [TMG] Re: Sentence Help
> > >
> > >
> > > I often run into problems with commas -- sometimes there are extra
ones,
> > > sometimes an extra space, etc. My recommendation is to test some
> > variations
> > > and see how they print.
> > >
> > > Try things like:
> > > [P] <[PAR]> was born <[D]> <[L]> <[M]>
> > > [P]<[PAR]> was born <[D]> <[L]> <[M]>
> > > [P]< [PAR]> was born <[D]> <[L]> <[M]>
> > > etc., etc.,
> > >
> > > The idea is to keep trying the different permutations until one
> > (hopefully)
> > > corrects the problem. Most of time I can fix my problem, but
sometimes
> I
> > > can't, in which case I rearrange the order of the sentence and it gets
> > fixed
> > > another way. If I were more methodical, I would make a chart for
myself
> > > which produced the results for all the different permutations. But I
> > > haven't done this yet, so whenever problems show up, I do my several
> > tests.
> > > James Colgate
> > >
> > > PS: you typed your sentence structure in your email to us with *two*
> > spaces
> > > between [P] and <[PAR]>. Could that be the problem
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Elsa Vorwerk" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 11:46 AM
> > > Subject: [TMG] Re: Sentence Help
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've been using a variation of this sentence:
> > > >
> > > > [P] <[PAR]> was born <[D]> <[L]> <[M]>
> > > >
> > > > which produces a space between the principal's
> > > > surname and comma following it. I'm happy to
> > > > see that in the variation
> > > >
> > > > [P] was born <[D]> <[L]> <[PAR]> <[M]>
> > > >
> > > > the space is eliminated, but can anyone explain what
> > > > generates the space before the comma in the former?
> > > >
> > > > Elsa in Allegany County, Maryland
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > REFERENCE:
> > > > Terry & Carlton - I think there is a small error in what Terry
> indicated
> > > for
> > > > the "parent variable." For the Principal, you need to use the
> variable
> > > > [PAR]. This will generate the phrase "son of" or "daughter of"
> > depending
> > > on
> > > > the sex of the Principal. [PARO] is the variable for the parents of
> the
> > > > Other Principal; this would be used, for example, if you were
> indicating
> > > the
> > > > parents of the second person in a marriage event. This was the
design
> > > usage
> > > > for TMG 4.0 and I assume that it is still effective in TMG 5.0x.
> > > > CheriC =^..^=
> > > >
> > > >
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