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From: Ian Singer <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Descendant Narrative]
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:39:36 -0500
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> Ian Singer wrote:
>> OK I have it and it up on my website under 4.0d but some questions:
>> The original decendant narrative which is there too has 8 focuses and
>> 535 people. The new one is made up of all focuses where a flag was set
>> because they have no ancestors and it has 3043 people.
>> Why is it that if I take the one with 8 focus and just remove the last
>> one and add if ROOT flag = Y the it will only pick up a few hundred
>> people more.
>> I like the format of the orignal report with focus people better than
>> the one with flag people. Is there anything I can do to make them more
>> similar? When creating the flag people version with the wizard there
>> was an option for style that let you pick block or indented. Once the
>> report format has been saved I can't see how to change that option. Is
>> it possible?
>Terry Reigel wrote:
> Maybe I don't understand what you are trying to do. I think you are
> trying to create an indented narrative, or Journal descendants
> narrative, that starts with each end of line ancestor. Right so far?
> Using a filter something like:
> ID# = 123 OR
> ID# = 456 OR
> But there were more than 8 end of line ancestors, so you ran out of
Correct, descendant journal narrative as shown on my site.
>So not you have created a Flag called Root, and are using a filter
> Root Flag = Y
Yes correct again. Each root is the starting ancestor for descendants
and includes the 8 people in the fist report plus more.
> Which should work. But you say the format is different. How? Which
> Report are you using? Have you compared the options on the two report
> definitions? Which options are different?
The descendant narrative gives a nice header for each focus person. The
one using Roots does not. Also teh indenting is different and it does
not look as nice. Both are posted on line and if you have the time to
look the differnce is very obvious. I have copied all teh basic headers
and html meta tags etc to the Root report.
> You also ask about getting a different number of people when you use
> only the flags compared to when you add the flag term in place of the
> last focus person.
My impression is that just using the 8 focus people it generated a
report of 535 people. Using just the Root people came up with over
3,000. I was expecting that if I removed the 8th focus person and
replaced it with the Root=Y it would come up with 3,000+ but it came up
with less than 600. I suppose its possible is picking up 4,000+ dupes
that are not conted in one format?
> You shouldn't from your description. I would think
> that if you do, something is strange with the filter (you didn't use an
> AND connector, did you?)
No, but in the Root one I just have Rppt flag =Y and it does not have
> Did you create a whole new report definition for the version with the
> Flag focus? That may be the problem, as it appears that some key options
> are different.
Are you suggesting it would have been better to copy the descendant
narrative and then remove the focuses and add the root flag?
See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com
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