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From: "Fran Segall" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Person with NO information
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 23:31:53 -0400
In-Reply-To: <3F3EF608.8080207@austin.rr.com>


Thanks, Elizabeth. Every time I think I've got this stuff figured out,
I find a reason to go back and think things over yet again!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elizabeth Churchett [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 11:27 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [TMG] Person with NO information
>
>
> Fran,
>
> I don't think I would do this--create a person as the mother
> of these 8
> children. Yes, obviously they had a mother <g>. But if you create a
> fake mother person (and if you have absolutely no
> information--place of
> marriage, birth, death, etc.--then I don't quite understand *why* you
> want to create a person other than having them attached to a
> Tag about
> the anniversary party, which could just as easily be done by
> mentioned
> her in the memo of a Tag attached to the father), then you are making
> some assumptions that you have no evidence to support. The one that
> jumps to my mind immediately is assuming that cousin John
> Smith and his
> 7 siblings had the same mother. Maybe the mother of the
> first one died
> in childbirth, and only the last 7 share a mother, for instance. I
> would want to figure out some way to clearly highlight to myself that
> assumption, so that I didn't get tripped up in later research and
> overlook something.
>
> With regards to the specific information below, what it
> sounds like the
> story really tells you is that the father of Sam Smith had a
> wife with
> whom he had an anniversary party, rather than any information
> about her
> children. So you could create a wife of Sam Smith's father,
> have a Tag
> for the anniversary party that includes both of them as
> Principals, but
> not have any relationship Tags between her and the children until you
> found something to document it--whether from a conversation
> with another
> relative, birth certificates, etc.
>
> --Elizabeth
> Austin, Texas
>
> Fran Segall wrote:
>
> >Good point! But hypothetically, if cousin John Smith and his 7
> >siblings had a father named Sam Smith and one of them once told a
> >friend of a cousin of a friend about their parents'
> anniversary party,
> >and assuming John and his siblings weren't found in a cabbage patch,
> >it's likely he had a mother and she was "probably" married to his
> >father. But even if they weren't married, do we create a person for
> >his mother who was "involved" with his father?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [mailto:]
> >>Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:47 PM
> >>To:
> >>Subject: Re: [TMG] Person with NO information
> >>
> >>
> >>In a message dated 8/16/03 7:44:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
> >> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>How do all of you handle a spouse for whom you have absolutely no
> >>>information - not even a name? Do you enter someone with
> >>>
> >>>
> >>unknown (or
> >>
> >>
> >>>blank) name? Or do you enter a marriage event with one
> >>>
> >>>
> >>principal and
> >>
> >>
> >>>let the reports/charts show "unknown person"? I've got
> >>>
> >>>
> >>lots of these.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Obviously, for a child you want to show that the child
> >>>
> >>>
> >>existed. But
> >>
> >>
> >>>for a spouse one would "assume" that if there's a marriage
> >>>
> >>>
> >>event, then
> >>
> >>
> >>>there was a spouse.
> >>>
> >>>Fran Segall
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Just how do you know the person is a spouse vs. live
> >>in-lover, one night
> >>stand, etc?
> >>
> >>"True happiness lies not keeping up with the Joneses but
> >>rather in not
> >>letting them catch up!"
> >>
> >>
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