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From: Richard Cleaveland <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Irregular dates - repair?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:57:36 -0400
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Thanks - I'm using your technique - now down from 500+ to 230 or so still
to go. Right (mouse) arm is getting tired <g>. Will have to learn to use
the left hand for the mouse.

Dick

At 08:57 PM 6/5/2004 +1000, Shelley French wrote:
>I had (still have!) a similar problem that I wrote to the list about a week
>or so ago. In my case any date I imported from "Generations" which had a
>question mark in front of it came in as an irregular date, and was all
>switched around. The sort dates in these cases were also irregular.
>
>I tried using the utility and was able to make all my irregular dates look
>right, but the sort dates were still wrong. With no suggestion of an easy
>way to go about it, I reimported my data and have started making my way
>through entry by entry.
>
>I'm getting through the corrections pretty quickly now using the following
>method...
>
>- Use the filter in project explorer to generate a list of people for whom
>the date in "Any event" is irregular.
>- Create a focus group of these people (by right clicking in the filtered
>Project Explorer window).
>- Remember to unfilter the project explorer before you close out of it,
>because it seem to want to filter in the background with every change, even
>if it's closed!
>- Then just make your way from the top to the bottom of the focus group (you
>can just double click names to change the focus), removing each person from
>the list as you go or in batches as you get them done.
>
>Only 435 people left to go! Then the real importation clean up begins.
>
>I hope that's some help for you.
>
>Shelley
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Cleaveland [mailto:]
>Sent: Saturday, 5 June 2004 12:31 PM
>To:
>Subject: [TMG] Irregular dates - repair?
>
>Back in the dark ages when I was using UFT I didn't like the sentences that
>were produced when only the year or the month and year were known. For
>example, the output was of the style "....was born in Canterbury, Windham,
>CT 1799."
>
>So what I did was use "free dates" and, in this case, entered "during 1799".
>
>Of course now in TMG these are "irregular" dates and need not be since TMG
>nicely will say "in 1799" with the bare year which satisfies my desires.
>
>But I have a *zillion* of these irregular dates.
>
>I'm aware that John's utility can be used to eliminate the "during" but I
>seem to recall that he pointed out a while back that just removing the
>"during" with his program does not change the date from irregular to
>(presumably) "regular."
>
>Other than going through each of the dates and fixing them by hand, is
>there another solution?
>
>Or perhaps someone can suggest a better "by-hand" process. What I've
>started doing is using the master event list sorted by date (so that these
>irregular dates will all sort to the top) then clicking on the edit button,
>changing the date, and saving. The problem then is that the master event
>list immediately re-sorts and then positions itself at the event that was
>just changed, which is far away from where the next irregular-dated event
>is. Much clicking to get to the next one.
>
>Well, while thinking and writing the above, I tried just sorting the MEL by
>event and then eyball-searching for those with irregular dates, and that
>works a lot better, avoiding the re-sort.
>
>Some might ask why I should bother if the irregular date prints out ok.
>Readers may recall an earlier post where a possible error came up as the
>result of an irregular date being used for an event. I'd like to avoid
>this sort of thing. And date-oriented searches will get better results if
>irregular dates are avoided.
>
>Dick
>
>
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