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From: "Bob Craycroft" <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Spouses even though no marriage shown?
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:08:18 -0500 (CDT)
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I would be careful with "Assume Parents Are Married" for medieval
relationships. Bastardy was a common occurance and many a man sired
childred with two, three, or more women, one of whom was his "legal" or
recognized wife.

I have more than a few men back up my tree with the prefix of "Fitz" on
their surnames (actually the father's name), i.e. William Fitz Ragemar.
The Fitz, at that time, was commonly used to denote an illegitimate birth
that was recognized by the father. As a matter of fact, William the
Conqueror was a Fitz, but I don't recall off the top of my head who Daddy
was.

So for this reason I would be hesitant to generally assume a marriage-type
relationship between parents.

Bob


> At 09:01 29/06/2004 +0100, Tim wrote:
>>In message of 29 Jun, Lloyd Gledhill <> wrote:
>>
>> > I have just installed TMG and imported my file from Generations into
>> > TMG. Am I right in concluding that the hundreds of person whom I
>> > regard as spouses are not classified as such in TMG unless they have
>> > the Marriage tag?
>>
>>This is the trouble with doing medieval genealogy: marriage was a less
>>formal event and the details of the actual marriage are frequently,
>>usually even, not known. So there are no details in Generations about
>>such marriages, only the fact that they were spouses.
>>
>>So, when I imported my Generations file, I could not find the spouses on
>>the person display. But they are clearly there on the Family and Tree
>>displays. So TMG does know something about the relationship. So I
>>would conclude that it should be possible to display the spouses on the
>>person display.
>>
>>How? Anyone?
>
> Hi,
>
> If you re-import the Generations data using the Advanced Wizard you can
> set
> the "Assume Parents are Married" check box which will generate a Marriage
> group tag for all persons that are parents of the children.
>
> I must say that will marry persons who were not! It is a great pity that
> TMG5 doers not have a standard tag "Marriage-Assumed" for such situations
> -
> then you could list them separately after the import and review them.
>
>
> Robin Lamacraft (Adelaide, Australia)
>
>
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