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From: "Jill Morelli" <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Blank given names
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:27:23 -0400
In-Reply-To: <42FAE785.1040405@austin.rr.com>


Actually, Elizabeth, I think I got the idea from you! Jill

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth Churchett [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:52 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [TMG] Blank given names

Michael,

I implemented Jill's method, with a few modifications, in my own
database a while ago and have been very pleased with it (thanks again,
Jill!). My identifying information goes in the Title field, which is
never used for anything else by me, and I will get picklist/Project
Explorer (PE) entries that look like the following:

, (mother of Philip J. Crossan)
, Elizabeth (mother of Florence Lab:)
, Elizabeth (wife of Jan Sprong:)

For the identifying relationship, I just make the decision on a
case-by-case basis as to how I think of the person and his/her relevance
to the family--are they important b/c they are the parent of someone or
because they are the spouse or child of someone? All in all it's very
helpful, and since the Title element is not used in the Name Style for
report output, it's for my purposes only. Once I decided to do this in
my project for people with at least one name (out of given name and
surname) unknown, it took me only a morning to make a Focus Group for
the necessary individuals and then work through them to add the
necessary information to their primary Name Tag. Put on some good
music, and the time will fly <g>.

--Elizabeth
Austin, Texas



Jill Morelli wrote:

>Michael,
>
>...
>In addition, to separate out the folks that may be unknown first name but
>all the same last names and I don't know if they are the 17th century or of
>the 19th century....I use the suffix field for a short non-printing
>descriptor. For example,
>
>Given name: Antje
>Surname: (--?--) and then in the suffix field:
>
>-(w/o John Eckhoff, b. 1813) (w/o for wife of, d/o daughter of, h/o husband
>of....you get the idea.)
>
>That way I know WHICH Antje she is and it is not so hard to find her. This
>works for me because I do not often use the suffix field, so it is
available
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael J Dietz [mailto:]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:59 PM
>To:
>Subject: [TMG] Blank given names
>
>...
>
>Has anybody come up with a really neat way to enter individuals where you
do
>not know their given name, e.g., knowing the wife's married name is Brown
>but not knowing what her husband's given name is. I would like to be able
>to look at all the "blank" given names in a pick list and know if the
>individual is male or female, especially when dealing with children. I
have
>tried ?m?, ?male, (?male), (male), (unknown male), -male-, (male given
>name). However all these look stupid in the individual display, on
reports,
>and in the picklist. I will just keep on using the same old ??? for now
but
>am open to any and all suggestions....
>
>


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