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From: bob gillis <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Pre-USA country designations
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:11:24 -0400
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Peter B.Hill wrote:

> Deeds can also be very explicit. Quoting from a deed in front
> of me at the moment dated 3 July 1672, it reads in part: "....Isaac
> Dotey allias Doutey... of the towne of Plymouth in the Collonie of New
> Plymouth in New England in America...." This is only one example: I
> have seen a number of deeds from the late 17th century with the same
> hierarchy of place names. About 1686, the governmental structure
> changed; and the "Collonie" of Plymouth became the "County" of Plymouth.

This AFAIR, because the Colony of New Plymouth was merged into the the
Massachusetts Bay Colony. New England was never political area.

bob gillis

> Pete Hill
> At 09:00 PM 9/21/2005 -0500, Bobbie Hall wrote:
>> Perhaps it would help your quest for perfection in place-naming to
>> look at some of the wills for your locality in the time period you're
>> examining. As an example:
>> "On the thirtyfirst day of Jan: 1710, ... John Chadwick of Watertown
>> in the County of Middlesex in her Majesties Province of Massachusetts
>> Bay in New England" wrote his will.
>> Some of these wills become very geographically explicit. I've been
>> scanning thru a few of mine to see if there is more of a "country"
>> designated, but it seems that once they proclaim New England (in the
>> only early examples I personally have at hand) they go no farther.
>> Cheers,
>> Bobbie Hall
>> Chicago
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