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From: bob gillis <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Question
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:20:32 -0400
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Thank you Lee for clarifying my message. When I refer to roles I mean
Custom Roles. Originally people could be Principals or Witnesses.
There were no Roles. When Roles started being used, Principals and
Witnesses then became Roles.
If a user uses witnesses or witness roles in sentences and if the
person is not already in his data, the user has to add a person to his
data, . If that person is used only a few times in sentences and is not
related to the other people in the data, then I think it much easier to
add them in the Tag memo.
Lee Hoffman wrote:
> Terry Reigel wrote:
>> You cannot enter a person as a Role. You can only enter then as
>> Principals or Witnesses - noting has changed in that regard with the
>> advent of Roles.
> Well, yes. But the usual statement is "I entered John Smith as a
> (rolename) in (Tag Name) Tag" meaning the person was entered as e.g.,
> a Groom or a Deceased. In that context, the person was entered as a
> Role although the Role happened to be Principal, Witness, Groom.
> Deceased, Aunt, whatever. We're talking semantics here, so yes, Terry
> is right but missing Bob Gillis' meaning with Bob's less than specific
> statement phrased in everyday English.
> On the other hand, Bob Gillis is also missing the point. He states
> that he does not use Roles and he is very wrong. Every person entered
> into a Tag has a Role. If the user does not specifically select
> something else then the Principal or Witness Role is selected.
> And before someone points out that I am also missing the point of
> Bob's statement, let me state that I understand him to _mean_ that he
> does not use Custom Roles (or any Role except Principal or Witness).
> He just didn't say it that way. <g>
>> Roles are a way of creating libraries of sentences - they can be
>> applied to Principals or to Witnesses. They do not require you enter
>> any additional people to a tag. They simply provide additional
>> flexibility in how you assign sentences to people you would already
> Roles are more than just libraries of sentences -- depending on the
> user. Some users create Roles and never modify the default Sentences
> that are assigned when the Role is created. The Roles is then not for
> use as a Sentence library, but for the person to use as a reminder of
> what the user did in the context of the Tag -- the person's role in
> the event.
> As Terry has pointed out, most Roles (beyond Principal and Witness)
> are in many cases not _needed_ . On the other hand, they can make the
> design of Sentence Structure much easier. Still it is the rare
> Sentence Structure that can't be created using just the Principal and
> Witness Roles with a little creativity. But Roles make the job a lot
> easier very often. While I use Principal and Witness mostly, I do not
> hesitate to add a Custom Role to make writing a Sentence Structure
> Lee Hoffman/KY
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