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From: "Sholder, Kevin L." <>
Subject: RE: [TMG] Ships & voyages - "ship people" or timelines
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:02:18 -0400
In-Reply-To: <004901c6d47f$683385e0$c801a8c0@Bobbie>


Would you share what your sentences look like for these types of events.
Like Delia, I'm just looking at how best to record the ship passengers,
where they went. I like this idea, as I read John's e-mail in detail as

Also if you have any other methods behind your madness I'd be interested in
hearing them.

Thank you for your time,
Kevin L. Sholder

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobbie Hall [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TMG] Ships & voyages - "ship people" or timelines


I have used Ships as people in TMG mainly because I have a lot of ancestors
from New England who were owners/builders/sailors/masters on schooners,
brigs & whalers and the like, instead of simply passengers on a single
trans-Atlantic voyage. When I find information on a particular ship that
somehow relates to my ancestors or their neighbors (who are usually also
distantly related), I will add the humans as witnesses in various roles,
such as owners, masters, sailors, builders, etc. It's amazing how many
'local folk' had a small share of ownership in vessels, even if they were
simply farmers or shopkeepers. A form of investment in the 1800s for those
who had limited capital but great gumption.

In the memo for a given tag for the ship I'll record details such as it's
date of birth (construction date & place), registration information, its
tonnage, length, number of masts, and other details, what type of ship it
was, what its cargo might have held on a particular voyage, and whatever
details I find about its travels & adventures. All sorts of details that are
occasionally and very randomly found in ship registers! Finding the name of
an ancestor, his position in the crew, and even his pay for the voyage is
fascinating. Then to track its journey .... marvelous!

I have a "Parent" named SHIP so I can attach all the "children" vessels. I
also have a "ship" flag that I have accented in a lovely oceanic blue so
they're easy to spot. My Parent Ship has 182 children so far. I create the
ship's name tag using " " around the given name, and it has a surname of
--Ship. This helps in printouts to see that it is a vessel.

When I find an ancestor or relative of any type who sailed frequently, I'll
try to track down any ship logs for the vessels, and in a few cases I've
found 'memoirs' written by the people of their voyages. Those of course are
the greatest of treasures!

Caveat: I'm really into ships and those who sailed on them <g>. You may find
my method overkill for your needs!

Bobbie Hall

----- Original Message -----
From: "Delia Robertson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 3:37 AM
Subject: [TMG] Ships & voyages - "ship people" or timelines

> All,
> I am trying to decide how to enter data about ships and the voyages they
> made, other than simply as voyage tags for individuals.
> I have been considering the option of creating separate timelines for each

> vessel I want to include; or, creating "ship people," and am currently
> leaning toward the latter.
> I'd greatly appreciate suggestions and guidance from anyone who has done
> something similar.
> Kind regards
> Delia Robertson

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