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From: Donald Joseph Schulteis <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Sureties but Not in the Add Person Screen?
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:16:40 -0700 (PDT)


Terry,
I had forgotten all about the sureties being displayed in the Citation Window as their presence there does not impact the use of the window and I guess, over time, I have just ignored them there.
 
The Add Person Window is an area where you can't ignore them, and they do negatively impact the user when adding data there, if the user does not use sureties for events issues.
 
The third area is the Source Definition Window.  Having an enhanced filter when addressing the Src Surety Default could make for powerful list-of-events report writing.  Supporting a filter of does-not-contain a specific surety default value, say 3, could allow the user to identify birth, marriage, and death events needing to be looked up at a specific location, such as a court house.   
 
I assume the citation sureties and the add person sureties for the same event are the same sureties.
 
Having an option to totally eliminate surety display in my mind would not be beneficial.   Mostly needed is the option to remove sureties from the add person window. The user still has the option then to change their mind using the citation window.         
 
Donald
 Donald Schulteis
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----- Original Message ----
From: Terry Reigel <>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 12:07:48 PM
Subject: [TMG] Sureties but Not in the Add Person Screen?

Dianna wrote:
>
> I guess I need to change my answer.  I had said I didn't
> use  them at all. Because of the original complaint about
> having to tab  thru the fields, I thought the question
> was pertaining to using the surety  fields in the data
> entry window.  I do not use them  there.    However, I
> do use them on the citation window and find  them very
> useful there.

And separately, Darrell wrote:

> The problem is that no distinction was made in the poll
> between those that do use sureties and normally enter
> them during Add Person; and those who also do use
> sureties, but seldom or never during Add Person.

I'm puzzled by why one would enter sureties in individual tags, but not enter them when creating those same tags by use of the Add Person screen. Could anyone explain why they find this useful?

I was about to suggest that there should be a way to turn off all sureties, but this suggests some users only want them removed from the Add Person screen, a situation I had not expected.

Terry Reigel

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