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From: "Bill Bienia" <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Death Reg. Sourcing Sorrows from a Long Time Lurker
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:32:04 -0400
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In-Reply-To: <2008916235742.701934@Terry3>


You should record what you saw (original register [rarely, if ever, used],
film copy of the register [made by the Archives] or online image of the film
copy of the register [made by Ancestry]) and where you saw it (Archives or
online). If there is a reference to the original source from which the
current source form was made, you would record that as well.

Note, I would consider the Archives copy to be "Preservation film", film
created so the originals would not be handled on a daily basis (as do the
FHL and NARA0, so the data (film) could be shared with a variety of other
facilities (libraries, archives, etc.) The Ancestry images are a copy of the
preservation film copies.

>From what I've been able to determine, the online image copies may not be
100% identical to the original film in two ways: 1) some pages are missing,
and 2) some images have been enhanced by Ancestry for better readability
online (content remains the same[?].) Another consideration is the indexing,
the online indexes are not identical to the indexes at the archives - the
Ancestry indexes were not created from the Archives indexes. (For instance,
I have one case where an Issacs surname was indexed on Ancestry as "Zrsacs",
but the online variety of search options facilitated finding that record)
You need to note this sort of thing so others can follow your information -
as Teresa indicated.

There should be two different source templates within TMG, one template for
the online image database at Ancestry that indicates, "(Citing Archives of
Ontario film...)" or "from Archives of Ontario film ...), and a second
template for the actual microfilm at the Archives when that is what was
viewed. Mills in Evidence Explained uses "Credit Line (Source of this
Source)" to denote the "field" which makes reference from the online image
to the source from which it was made. In her QuickSheet, front cover, Census
Images models, she references the online source, as well as referencing, for
example, "...; from National Archives microfilm publication T9, roll 535."

So anyone who has already created both sources (or templates) should not
convert the viewed-at-archives sources to the viewed-online-images sources,
or vice versa.

At least, this is the way I handle these two sources.

Bill

Bill Bienia, PLCGS
www.CobblestoneLegacies.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:] On Behalf
Of Terry Reigel
Sent: 16-Sep-08 11:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [TMG] Death Reg. Sourcing Sorrows from a Long Time Lurker

Teresa Elliott wrote:
> No, Ancestry is the repository for the films he viewed
> online. The archives would be the repository for the
> films he viewed at the archives, but the source would be
> the same regardless.

How can the source be the same if it has two different repositories? A
Source can have only one Repository.

Terry


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