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From: Douglas Husemann <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] TMG and 64 bit Vista - set up a virtual machine
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:16:17 -0500
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Kirk,

It is true that Virtual PC doesn't offer direct USB support, other Virtual
vendors do though.
and most of them have a free version.

I use sun's Virtual Box just because of that and the fact that it supports
64 bit clients and servers.
and it is free.

VMWare also allows virtualization of the underlying graphics subsystem
instead of being locked
at a lower level card. Although it appears that their free version is now a
vm viewer. It also allows
access to usb devices.

I can't say anything on the future of Virtual PC for now. Current version
only supports 32 bit clients
and doesn't support USB devices.

Also people buying systems today. Make sure there is a free upgrade path to
win 7. In my experience.
Win 7 is significantly better than Vista. and even better than XP in most
areas.

Douglas

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Kirk Ransom <>wrote:

> A virtual machine is an operating system and applications running as an
> independent 'computer' inside your desktop or laptop.
> Of course the OS and applications running in the virtual machine must be
> licensed products. The main real computer is the 'host' and the virtual OS
> is the 'guest'. Virtual machines work well because they take advantage of
> the excess power of current CPUs and the great amount of "idle" time any
> computer has.
>
> In the case of a 64-bit Vista machine, you could have a Windows XP 32 bit
> running on the Vista machine as a 16-bit computer. You use the right alt
> key to toggle between them. Or any key combination you want to set up. Or
> window them and see them both on the screen. So you can install (a
> licensed
> copy) of TMG in the XP and have the report done in Word format.
>
> Or you could even have Windows 98SE in the virtual machine. Or both XP and
> 98SE running on your 64 bit Vista laptop.
>
> Microsoft had a FREE application called Virtual PC 2007 SP1. There is a
> version for 32 bit machines and a version for 64 bit machines.
>
> There are other vendors, like VMware, with similar solutions. Some are
> free
> some are not.
>
> Most any newer computer with a 250 gig hard drive and 3 gig of RAM will run
> Virtual PC 2007. This is a software solution, so they may be some slight
> performance slowdown since accessing hardware like printers is done in
> software. And currently direct USB support is not supported. But if you
> plug in a USB flash drive, then you can share the drive under Windows and
> access it in the Virtual PC. Certain Inten CPUs that support
> virtualization
> technology will enable direct hardware access by the virtual machine - much
> faster.
>
> You can create 'shared' folders between the host and the virtual guests.
>
> If your laptop or desktop has a good amount of ram and disk space, it is an
> easy install.
> These are the *minimum* resources needed for the guest operating systems:
> Windows Vista: 512 MB ram, 65.5 MB disk space
> Windows XP: 128 MB ram, 65.5 MB disk space
> Windows 2000: 128 MB ram, 16.4 MB disk space
> Windows 98: 64MB ram, 16.4 MB disk space These can be expanded in the VPC
> setup program or the VPC console.
>
> Google Virtual PC 2007 for more information. Microsoft's web pages are
> basically useless but there are many good blogs that are very helpful.
>
> Kirk
>
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