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From: Rick Van Dusen <>
Subject: Re: [TMG] Misbehaving (?) Source Citations
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:17:20 -0800
1. I could have used Initialize, but I think the path I took was
probably the best for my circumstances (although importing a Mills-based
custom set from a fresh project would have been a little cleaner). I'm
not chiding anyone for not mentioning Initialize, for the reasons you
2. I now see the Reminders entry in these two special source types.
Also, I was able to recreate them with the default names by exporting
them AND a couple of other types (which matched types I hadn't yet
modified) and importing all (without prefix). So now, whether I need
them or not, I have them.
3. I've finished cleaning the list of Mills source types. Along the way
I created 15 modified types (mostly putting some of the fields within
conditionals, but for email I eliminated the email address and address
lines). Likely I'll modify a few more and/or add some as I go forward.
One I definitely want to add is "Book (unpublished)" or "Book
(manuscript)". (And eventually I need to selectively eliminate the
Lackey types--making sure first I'm not using them--and eventually cull
the UK variants.)
NOW, I can start cleaning up my Master Source List!
(And this is only one project! However, I'll be able to use this Source
Types list in the others.)
Lee Hoffman wrote:
> Rick Van Dusen wrote:
>> However, nobody in this thread has mentioned/explained the "Initialize"
>> button (at least not while I was paying attention).
> It is so seldom used (and should be) that most forget it.
>> If I'm understanding you correctly, I possibly could have taken a
>> shorter route to where I am
>> now. Or maybe not, since I might have lost some customizations.
> Right. Although, hitting the [Cancel] button on the Initialize
> Custom Source Types window will ensure that any customizations will
> remain. A couple of added points -- if either Lackey or Mills is
> selected in Preferences, you can still [Edit] any of those default
> Source Types -- you just can't create new ones, delete any Source
> Type, Copy or change the Primary Source Type.
>> And now, I have an additional question:
>> Background: I imported the Custom Source Types (taken from Mills) from
>> another project, and I used the Add Prefix option to avoid any
>> conflicts, and to be able to keep track of my work with them (check
>> and/or modify, then remove the prefix from the name).
>> Question: I have two Types that have no sentences:
>> Family History Library (FHL) (Microcopy of Published Work)
>> Family History Library (FHL) (Microcopy of Unpublished Material)
>> When I attempted to rename these, they demanded sentence entries, so I
>> couldn't rename or modify without creating a sentence.
> These are not "real" Source Types in the sense that there are no
> separate Source Templates [not sentences] for these. Actually, they
> apply to all other Source Types and if there were Source Templates
> for these, you would really wind up with about 206 Source Types
> rather than 105.
> If you are creating a new Source and happen to select one of these
> Source Types then the Reminder window will tell you to click on the
> [Source type] button (remember that you are in a Source Definition
> screen at this point) and select the Source Type that is the one that
> would be used if you were citing the actual source document instead
> of the microfilm/fiche. The reminder continues to remind you to add
> something like the following:
> micro film/fiche no. 123,456, frame 123, Family History
> Library (FHL), Salt Lake City, Utah.
> There are a number of ways to add this. You can put it in the
> Citation Detail (CD) or (as I usually do) add it to the appropriate
> Source Templates (on the Output Forms tab of the Source Definition
> Screen. This last ensures the Bibliography citation has the
> information since the Bibliography does not pick up the CD data.
> Oh, yes, you can find these two Source Type models in Ms. Mills' book
> "Evidence!" on p. 83 pretty much as you find it in TMG.
> Hope this helps -
> Lee Hoffman/KY
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