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Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Civil War Roster Help Needed Please
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:41:35 -0600

Could someone with the Hawkins County roster for the Civil War please tell me what BYRD/BIRD names are listed. I'm searching for my Enoch/Ephraim Byrd/Bird. Family history states he died as a result of injuries but I have yet to find him on any records. He was listed in Hawkins Co., 1850 census as Ephriam and in 1860 as Enoch....so I'm not sure what name would be listed -- Thanks for anything!

Pat Byrd Robinson
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> #6 [TNHAWKIN] Re: Davis/Records avail []
> #7 [TNHAWKIN] Joseph Lamb []
> #8 [TNHAWKIN] Re: Davis/Records avail []
> #9 [TNHAWKIN] William/Elinor Ingram a [Dianne Ingram <>]
> #10 [TNHAWKIN] Re: Davis/Records avail []
> #11 [TNHAWKIN] Re: Davis/Records avail []
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> Surnames: Barger
> Classification: Query
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> I just noticed your query on Ancestry.Com. The James Barger that witnessed the Civil War Pension may be my Great Brandfather. Let's communicate by e-mail.
> Carl Barger
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> Surnames: Halbersma
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> Searching for info at all regarding the Halbersma line. My daughter in law was daughter of Gloria Jean Halbersma but since they have both recently passed, info is almost non-existant. Gloria's family was in Pipestone Co. MN for some years but I can find nothing in census data or any where else. Any info at all would be appreciated.
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> Surnames: thacker, wood, vermillion
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> thank you very much for the directions. my trip had to be postponed but now i have them for when i do get to go. thank you again.
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> Surnames: Pangle - Krafthefer -Zombro
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> Looking for info on Florence Elizabeth Pangle born 1869 Springfield, Clark, Ohio. married Ernest John Krafthefer 1896. Father: James Edward Pangle Mother: Elizabeth Zombro
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> Would greatly apprectiate it.
> Thanks,
> Linda
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> Surnames: Salmon/Solomon, Pitts, Walker, Jones,Dial,Hardcastle
> Classification: Query
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> James Salmon died abt. 1869 in Hawkins co. TN.
> I am trying to find his son Franklin Solomon b. 1839 in TN.
> If anyone has any information on this family please write.
> Thanks, Carol
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> Surnames: Davis Ladd
> Classification: Query
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> Thank you for that information. I did check Hancock and did not find any potential matches so I feel I am getting closer to identifying which William and which John W. Davis might be mine. What records can be used to identify early births or to establish family relationships? My understanding is that the court house records all burned - are there any creative alternatives. My William was probably around 1834 (+ or - 10 years) and left the area before 1856 while John was 1842 and left 1869 or so. I appreciate any suggestions.
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> Surnames: Lamb
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> I was hoping that some can tell me were Joseph Lamb is buried. I found this obit.Obituaries From Tennessee Newspapers--By: Jill L. Garrett
> Joseph Lamb, age 110, of Hawkins County, Tennessee, died October 10, 1872{Whig and Tribune,Jackson, Tennessee, 16 Nov. 1872}. Thanks for the help.
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> Surnames: Davis, Ladd
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> I would not rely on Census age for birthdate nor the correct name of someone. The census wasn't always completed in the Census year. There is often an 8 to 12 year age difference between the 1850 and 1860 Hawkins County, TN Census age instead of the 10 years that you would expect. People often used nicknames, middle names, or name variations. John W. Davis married Sarah Lad (one "d" in record) on August 24, 1865 in Hawkins County, TN. There doesn't appear to be a war record for John W. Davis unless he served out of state. The 1870 Census for Hawkins County is online at:
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> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhawkin/links.html
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> Unfortunately, a couple of key districts are not indexed for 1870. You can see from the 1860 Census who John W. likely belongs to, and the Ladds live nearby which provides support for his identification. But, William H. is not living with William Sr in 1850, suggesting he may be the grandchild of William Sr, whereas Johnathan and John W. are living with William Sr in 1850, suggesting John W. may be William Sr's child. It is possible that William H. is using his middle name in 1870. There does not appear to be another Davis in Hawkins District 6 in 1850.
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> 1860 District 6
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> 929 870 Davis William 60 M
> " Mary 60 F
> " Mary 27 F
> " John 27 M (Johnathan 1850)
> " William 13 M
> " Jona W. 17 M (John 1850)
> " Sarah 29 F
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> 943 883 Ladd Nancy 50 F
> " John 27 M
> " Susan 23 F
> " Martha 19 F
> " Sarah 17 F
> " Thomas 12 M
> " Malinda 10 F
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> Hawkins County, Tn. Grant Book 1 Pg. 178
> 50 shillings
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> GRANTEE: GROVES John
> Location/Description 440 acres
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> On the north side of Holston River on the waters of
> Big Creek joining said GROVES land above and Arthur
> GALBRIATH's enter (sic) by William INGRAM decs (sic)
> below Begining at a ford'd (sic) chesnut oak on the
> side of the Knobs & running thence south forty degrees
> east along a conditional line two hundred & twenty
> eight poles to a dogwood on the side of the knobs
> thence along the Knobs north thirty five east three
> hundred & ten poles to a white oak said GROVES former
> corner thence along said line north fifty five west
> two hundred & thirty poles to a red oak & sourwood on
> the side of the Knobs thence along Knobs south thirty
> five west two hundred and fifty three poles to the
> begining.
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> In the Washington County Court Records 1780-1965
> under Miscellaneous Judicial Documents 1777-1928 Boxes
> 1-8 folder 2.
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> There are 10 entries. The first is Arthur Galbreath,
> Elinor Ingram; receipt, August 7, 1787
> The 2nd entry reads: Arthur Galbreath (Galbraith),
> Nathan Henderson; bond to prosecute, case of Arthur
> Galbreath vs Elinor Ingram: February 16, 1789.
> The last entry was:
> Elinor Ingram of Hawkins County; writ of capias ad
> satisfaciendum issued for: case of Arthur Galbreath vs
> Ellinor Ingram; issued on May 10, 1797.
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> Also a Samuel Wilson, James Berry and William
> Armstrong are mentioned in the index. A Samuel Wilson
> married a Mary Ingram and eventually moved to
> Washington County, Arkansas. It appears to me a
> Samuel Wilson and Absolum Looney were in business
> together.
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> This is just FYI - I have written to Washington County
> to see if I can find the actual wordings of the court
> case. Is there any Galbraith's ancestors out there?
> Would like to hear their side of this court case.
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> Dianne Ingram in Oregon
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> There is a war pension file that looks suspiciously like you John W. Davis:
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> John W. Davis and Sarah Davis
> B Company 1st Tennessee Light Artillery
> Invalid App#410494 Invalid Certificate #387469 (1880)
> Widow App#935434, Widow Certificate#699976 (1910)
> Both filed from TN
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> B Company was made up of men from Hawkins/Hancock, although he doesn't show up in Shelia Johnson's book on the topic. Quite a few don't for a variety of reasons. Unless you are sure that John W. Davis was not in TN in 1880, the only way that you could find out for sure is to ante up the $37 for the file. And, it may not contain any useful information--but again it may provide the clues you need. You may learn more about the widow than the veteran. You have to get it to find out. You have to apply using a form provided by the government. You need to order NATF Form 85 (you can only get 5 at a time--trust me get 5), and you can order it online at:
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> http://www.archives.gov/global_pages/inquire_form.html
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> Be sure to both check the box on the left and select the quantity on the right or the order will not go through. Good Luck!
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> Thanks for all your thoughts and notes. William H. Davis is actually gone from TN by 1856 as I have found him in Iowa, where he lived out the rest of his life. (He may also have been in Indiana for a couple of years as there is a group of Davis' from Hawkins County there as well and they signed William's land records.) I am just unable to piece these people together at all - I just can't locate enough records to document anything. The midwest at this time did not maintain nice birth/death certificates. I was hoping John W. Davis might be my link to fitting the puzzle together. He moved to Iowa 1869. His birthdate is fairly sure as it comes from his obituary (July 12, 1842), although it is still a secondary source. I was looking at the family whose head is Thomas in the 1850 census as a possibility. William's birth date is very iffy - none of my sources agree but the range goes from 1820-1835. I hope someday to make a link and tear down this brick wall.
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> Is it possible that your William did not actually leave until after 1860? He wouldn't be able to own land until he was 18 or 21 depending on the state, so he should have any land record until after 1860. Maybe his family left him with his grandfather until they could scope out the situation. The William living with William Sr cannot be found in 1870 suggesting that he left before 1870.
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> Boy that is interesting. His land record file was odd and that might explain why. He is in Iowa 1856 but his land records were not signed until 1870. These other Davis' (James and Amos) had to come over from Indiana to witness for him. In addition, a neighbor had to witness that he had been living on the land (squatter's rights?) since 1855 and had built a house (nice description of it), etc. While I haven't researched land records much, it seemed very different than what I've seen before. I thank you for taking so much time to help me. I've been stuck at this point for years.
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> I have some facts. My great grandmother Polly was James's sister.
> Bea H.
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> Surnames: MANIS CHRISTAIN
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> YES ELIJAH MANIS IS ON 1850 CENSUS WIFE IS ANNA DAUGHTER FANNY 2 SONS JOHN AND YANCY. SORRY IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG TO GET BACK WITH YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE. JUDY
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> Surnames: COLLINS, DAUGHERTY
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> I am searching for the childrens' names of my great grandpa, COLLINS, (John) Henry b. 1859 Lee Co, VA, s/o John & Elizabeth Collins.
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> Henry married Lavina Daugherty who was b. 1859 Lee Co, VA. I believe COLLINS, Henry and Lavina moved into TN either Hawkins or Hancock counties. Their children may have been born from 1876 to 1890. Would appreciate any help.
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