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From: "suehoward" <>
Subject: Re: [LCT] BLACK DUTCH
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 17:17:26 -0500
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Yes, it's a fascinating subject and I want to thank everybody who has
responded to my question. I still don't have a real clear idea of what
Black Dutch really means, but I believe that what you said, Cindy, makes a
lot of sense about them being half white and half Indian, and not wanting to
let anybody know that. Everybody in my family - my brothers and sisters,
that is - we all had very dark brown hair, brown eyes that were a little bit
almond shaped, and a fair complexion. My hair was (I say "was" because it's
now getting so much gray in it) the darkest of all - it actually looked more
black than brown. My complexion is very light and I always found it hard to
get a tan in the summer, but not hard at all to get a burn. Of course,
that's probably my Scot-Irish-English heritage coming into play. Some of my
surnames for the purpose of Black Dutch discussion were: Gilbert or
Guilbirt, Strickland, Braswell, Canady or Canada, Brown, Thomas, Greene,
Merritt, Pitt/Pitts, Lamar, Ashby, Winfield, Sherard, Dickey, and the ones
who were in Lincoln Co. were Clark, Cowan and McKee. My Johnson's, I'm
pretty sure, were Scots - they even called my grandfather John "Mac" Johnson
and his brother, Jim "Mac" Johnson. I know nobody asked for this info, but
just thought I would throw it in. Hope it's okay.

Sue (Johnson) Howard
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Subject: Re: [LCT] BLACK DUTCH


> Hi List,
> I just have to get in on this one also. My grandfather always told us
we
> were "Black Dutch", and I have never been able to learn what that means. I
> have seen several possibilities....The German descent, who originated from
> the "Black Forest"...the one where the Dutch and Spaniards crossed way
back
> when...and one I really find interesting is this: That back in the early
> 1800's you could not be "Indian" or you were sent to the reservations, and
> that if you were half white and half indian you could say you were "black
> dutch" and get away with that, and own your own lands. As far as traits,
what
> I found was dark hair and skin and fair eyes, this fit my grandfather, but
I
> have also seen where others day traits are dark hair with fair skin and
eyes,
> so..
> This was an excellant question, I would love to hear what others have
to
> say.
> Cindy
>
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