TNMEIGS-L Archives

Archiver > TNMEIGS > 2007-07 > 1185430467


From: "Paul Puente" <>
Subject: Re: [TNMEIGS] John Martin
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:14:27 +0200
References: <01b401c7cc76$77b66d80$6101a8c0@joyce960dd5c4b><7088efd80707222314xda30a00i7ead4188270dd9cf@mail.gmail.com><04df01c7cd25$ca3e6800$6101a8c0@joyce960dd5c4b><7088efd80707240019t7554064raf1c30485ba670f3@mail.gmail.com><001201c7ce06$25f7a220$33deb345@Banjob><7088efd80707241129nd532579o526f70f7f5decb78@mail.gmail.com><026701c7ce24$08f7f1c0$6101a8c0@joyce960dd5c4b>
In-Reply-To: <026701c7ce24$08f7f1c0$6101a8c0@joyce960dd5c4b>


Joyce

Did you look at the information I sent you in my post of 24 July? You didn't
acknowledge whether it was helpful or not. If you look toward the bottom of
that post you will see

Marriages of Meigs County of 1838 - 1850

MARTIN, Jesse to McDANIEL, Martha 09 Jun 1841

I don't know how this line connects (if at all) to my John Potter Martin,
but as Larry said, there are probably some connections, we just can't
determine as yet what they are.

Paul


On 7/24/07, Joyce G. Reece <> wrote:
>
> We had a wagon train that left here for Missouri in 1858.
>
> Which one of these Martin lines are involved with the McDaniels? Either
> have Wright or Casey connections?
>
> Joyce Gaston Reece
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Puente" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [TNMEIGS] John Martin
>
>
> > Larry
> >
> > Good to hear from you again. I'm still struggling with my Rhea/Meigs
> > Stanleys so I haven't had much time to work on the Martins. Would love
> to
> > know whatever happened to my great great grandmother, Nancy Martin
> > Stanley.
> > Nancy was still alive in April, 1854 when she was involved in a law suit
> > contesting the will of her father (mentioned in my previous email). By
> > 1860
> > neither Nancy nor Jonathan appear on either the Rhea or Meigs counties
> > census. However, there is a record of a Nancy Stanley married to Asal
> > Shamblin on 9 Jan 1853 in Meigs County. Interesting name.
> >
> > If you manage to piece together your Martins with good olde John Martin
> > and
> > his descendants from Franklin County, let me know.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 7/24/07, Larry Beach <> wrote:
> >>
> >> You kinda hit on my Meigs/Rhea County Martin's. Not sure how your
> >> Martin's are related to mine but they probably are.
> >> Owen Martin that married Sara Starns, had 8 known children the second
> >> child was John A. Martin b. Dec 1847.
> >> The Willie O. Martin mentioned in your marriage list MIGHT be related
> in
> >> some way to Owen (brother?). Perhaps his name is Willie Owen Martin?
> >> John A's son Charlie Martin had one daughter that he named Willie Marie
> >> Martin, my wife's mother.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Paul Puente" <>
> >> To: <>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:19 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [TNMEIGS] John Martin
> >>
> >>
> >> Joyce
> >>
> >> The following may be far more than you want, but better to have too
> much
> >> than too little, I think.
> >>
> >> In your initial post you said you were "looking for the children of
> John
> >> Martin b 1752 Henry Co VA moved to Meigs with son Jesse early 1800's"
> >> My
> >> best evidence to date is that my John Martin arrived in Meigs county
> >> between
> >> 1822 - 1825. I have no direct evidence that he was born in Henry Co VA
> >> although my John Martin does have a son Jesse. The earliest record I
> >> have of
> >> John Martin is that he shows up on the Franklin County VA personal
> >> property
> >> lists from 1786 - 1805. The following are some of my notes, sources,
> and
> >> speculations.
> >>
> >> In the 1830 census of Rhea County there is the following record:
> >>
> >> Martin, Jno. 1111000001-0000000001
> >>
> >> Jno Martin shows up on this page just before Howser, Jas. (Jos.?)
> >> 110001-011001. This is likely confirmation that the Martins and the
> >> Howsers
> >> did indeed leave Virginia together and settle next to each other.
> >>
> >> His will shows most of the children:
> >>
> >> (47 49 102 150 201) apr 1851-3 apr 1854 James M Martin, adm of John
> >> martin
> >> dec'd , files settlement. ( 197 198 200 208 210 435 ) 1854-2 Dec 1858
> >> will
> >> of John Martin dec'd;
> >>
> >> $ 5 each to sons Sabert Martin and Isham martin; to daughter Jane
> Moore;
> >> to
> >> son William Martin; slave Rachel, Eliza, Henry, and Joe to have their
> >> freedom; slave Rachel to have 80 acres, stock, and provisions; rest of
> >> property together with interest in my fathers estate to my children
> >> Jesse
> >> Martin, Elizabeth Bowles, John Martin, Polly Houser, and Nancy Stanley.
> >> Exec: James Houser sr; 14 march 1849; signed by mark; wit : Jesse
> >> Mavity,
> >> Josiah Houser , Calvin B Atkinson. At a circuit court in Rhea county at
> >> court house in Washington 6 mar 1854 with Hon, Ebenenezer Alexander ,
> >> Judge,
> >> presiding .
> >>
> >> On 5 march 1854 there appears of record ; James Houser exec of John
> >> Martin
> >> dec d vs Sabert Martin and Nancy Stanley; jury is respited until
> >> tomorrow.
> >> on 11 march 1854 said jury finds for the plaintiff, that the paper is
> >> the
> >> will of John Martin and is certified back to Meigs county . Darius
> >> Waterhouse clerk, 22 mar 1854. Jame Houser, Exec, files settlements,
> >> Exec.
> >> allowed for going to Virginia on business of said estate.
> >>
> >> On 2 Sept 1850 John Martin's will was contested and rejected by the
> >> Court
> >> (ibid, p. 58). On 11 Mar 1854 a Rhea County jury found that the paper
> >> was
> >> the true will of John Martin and was to be certified back to Meigs
> >> County.
> >> Funds were to have been set aside to transfer Joe to the western coast
> >> of
> >> Africa and to maintain him for six months, as prescribed by law.
> >>
> >> On 23 Apr 1866 Joe petitioned the State of Tennessee for voluntary
> >> enslavement. The cause was dismissed because no action was taken in two
> >> terms. The cause was taken to the Tennessee Supreme Court, and various
> >> parties were ordered to pay to the clerk and master the amounts owed
> but
> >> had
> >> paid nothing; Chancellor ordered them to pay or be under contempt of
> >> Court.
> >> This action was taken sometime between 30 Apr 1857 and 11 Mar 1872
> >> (ibid, p.
> >> 43 ). There is no mention of John's wife in all of this.
> >>
> >> Note: Judy Belle Horick states in her records that "Negro Rachel died
> >> in
> >> the first week in August 1853." although I have not seen any records of
> >> this
> >> fact.
> >>
> >> Here is the summary of John Martin's children. I have never been able
> to
> >> ascertain the name of his wife:
> >>
> >> Jesse Martin b. 1781 d. 1840
> >> Elizabeth Martin b. 1783
> >> William Martin
> >> Jane Martin
> >> Isham Martin
> >> Sabert Martin
> >> Nancy Martin (Stanley)
> >> Polly Martin (Houser)
> >>
> >> Here are some data for Jesse
> >>
> >> In the 1830 Rhea County census there is this record:
> >>
> >> Jesse Martin 40-50
> >> 1F 30-40
> >> 3M under 5
> >> 1M 5-10
> >> 1M 10-15
> >> 2M 15-20
> >> 1F 5-10
> >>
> >> In the 1810 census of Virginia
> >>
> >> Martin, Jesse 10010 00100 0 slaves
> >>
> >> In Franklin Co. Virginia
> >>
> >> 1802 Franklin Co. VA PP Tax List, Jesse Martin (John son) 1001 Tax: .12
> >> 1803 Franklin Co. VA PP Tax List, Jesse Martin 1001 Tax: .12
> >>
> >> Family Group Record for Jesse Martin (from another researcher)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ================================================================================
> >> Husband: Jesse Martin
> >>
> >>
> ================================================================================
> >> Born: 1781 - Henry Co., Va.
> >> Christened:
> >> Died: 1840 ?
> >> Buried:
> >> Father: John Martin (Abt 1752-1849)
> >> Mother:
> >> Marriage: 19 Sep 1808 Place: Franklin Co., VA
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Other Spouse: Betsy Ramsey (1780- ) Date: 03 Feb 1806 -
> >> Franklin
> >>
> >> Co., VA
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Events
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> 1. Tax List: 1802.1803, Franklin Co., VA. (1)
> >> 2. He appeared on the census in 1810 in Franklin Co., VA. (2)
> >> 3. He appeared on the census in 1830 in Rhea County, Tennessee.
> >> (3)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ================================================================================
> >> Wife: Jane Hunter
> >>
> >>
> ================================================================================
> >> Born: 1789 - Franklin Co., VA (4)
> >> Christened:
> >> Died: After 1850 - Meigs Co, TN
> >> Buried:
> >>
> >>
> ================================================================================
> >> Children
> >>
> >>
> ================================================================================
> >> 1 M James Martin
> >> Born: 1826
> >> Christened:
> >> Died:
> >> Buried:
> >> Spouse:
> >> Marr. Date:
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 2 M Josiah Martin
> >> Born: 1828
> >> Christened:
> >> Died:
> >> Buried:
> >> Spouse:
> >> Marr. Date:
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 3 M Luke Pierce Martin
> >> Born: 03 Nov 1829 - Rhea County, Tennessee
> >> Christened:
> >> Died: 03 Feb 1874 - Meigs Co, TN
> >> Buried:
> >> Spouse: Ann Singleton (1824-1864)
> >> Marr. Date: 30 Jul 1856 - Meigs Co, TN
> >> Spouse:
> >> Marr. Date:
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 4 M John Martin
> >> Born: 1832
> >> Christened:
> >> Died:
> >> Buried:
> >> Spouse:
> >> Marr. Date:
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> 5 M James S. Martin
> >> Born: 1835
> >> Christened:
> >> Died:
> >> Buried:
> >> Spouse:
> >> Marr. Date:
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> And just to complicate matters a bit more for you, here are the
> >> Marriages of
> >> Meigs County of 1838 - 1850
> >>
> >> MARTIN, Henry to COX, Sarah E. 23 Nov 1840
> >> MARTIN, Jesse to McDANIEL, Martha 09 Jun 1841
> >> MARTIN, Owen to STARNS, Sarah 06 Jan 1844
> >> MARTIN, T. J.to FAN, Sarah 11 May 1844
> >> MARTIN, Wilie O. to DAUGHTY, Eleanor 16 Nov 1843
> >> MARTIN, Wilie O. to HUTSON, Nancy 30 Jan 1844
> >>
> >> I haven't been able to connect any of these Martins to my Martin family
> >> although I'm sure that they are related in some way.
> >>
> >> I hope that some of this information will help you eliminate some of
> >> your
> >> Martins. A very common name and not easy to connect the families. Good
> >> luck
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/23/07, Joyce G. Reece <> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Please post to this list. Paul. Thanks
> >> >
> >> > FYI - I am searching for Dicy Martin who married Dempsey Casey about
> >> > 1821.
> >> > We are seeing indications that Dicy and Dempsey were involved at
> >> > Forest
> >> > Hill
> >> > Academy in McMinn Co.
> >> >
> >> > We don't have an iota of evidence to tell us who she was so we're
> >> > trying
> >> > to
> >> > eliminate the Martin's in the area to narrow down the field.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Joyce Gaston Reece
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Paul Puente" <>
> >> > To: <>
> >> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:14 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [TNMEIGS] John Martin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Hello Joyce
> >> > >
> >> > > Nancy Martin, daughter of John Martin, b. 1752 Virginia d. 1849
> >> > > Meigs
> >> > > County, TN was my great great grandmother. I have collected some
> >> > > nformation
> >> > > about he and his family once they were in Meigs County, but I know
> >> > > very
> >> > > little about him while he was in Virginia. I would like to trade
> >> > > information
> >> > > with you either by posting it here on the board or by sending it to
> >> > > you
> >> > > via
> >> > > email. If others have an interest in this family, I will post it on
> >> > > this
> >> > > board.
> >> > >
> >> > > I have a list of his children but am not sure it is complete. I do
> >> > > have
> >> > > quite a bit about Nancy Martin since I am descended from her after
> >> > > her
> >> > > marriage to Jonathan Stanley. Would you also let me know how you
> are
> >> > > related
> >> > > to him.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > >
> >> > > Paul Puente
> >> > > Reinach, Switzerland
> >> > >
> >> > > On 7/22/07, Joyce G. Reece <> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Anyone on this list working on John Martin b 1752 Henry Co VA
> moved
> >> > >> to
> >> > >> Meigs with son Jesse early 1800's?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Looking for a complete list of his children.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Joyce Gaston Reece
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -------------------------------
> >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> >> > >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > -------------------------------
> >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> >> > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without
> the
> >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >> > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date:
> >> > 7/21/2007
> >> > > 3:52 PM
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -------------------------------
> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> >> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> >> >
> >>
> >> -------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> >>
> >
> > -------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> >
> >
> > --
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.17/915 - Release Date:
> 7/24/2007
> > 1:50 PM
> >
> >
>
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>

This thread: