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From: "Timothy N. West" <>
Subject: Re: [TNSCOTT] West
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 21:00:01 -0500
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I know Reuben is the son of William West and Mary Rutherford. Jane,
I'm not sure. She may be Reuben's sister.

Debbie Reymolds wrote:

>Tim, I haven't found Charles in the 1850 census yet. In Greene Co TN I
>found...
>Head of household:
>Jane West
>Reuben West
>Reuben West Jr
>3 William West's.
> If you or anyone would like a copy of the pages please let me know. I'm
>checking the William's now. In the 2 Reuben's there is not a Charles and not
>a wife named Jane. In Jane's household there is not a Charles or a Reuben.
> Debbie
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Timothy N. West" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 8:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [TNSCOTT] West
>
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>>Charles is believed by many to be the son of Reuben West and Jane
>>Mathews. According to the research of others, in particular that of
>>Kathleen West Robbins, Reuben and Jane were from Fairfax or Loudoun
>>County, Virginia and that Charles was born there about 1774. In her
>>book, "West Family History Records", Kathleen seems to base her records
>>on the research conducted by Katherine Harrington West in the 1920s.
>>
>>Tracing back to Charles West is pretty easy and there is a lot of
>>evidence to support the linkage. The problem comes when trying to
>>determine his parents. Katherine Harrington West makes the first
>>assertion that Charles' parents were Reubin West and Jane Mathews from
>>Fairfax or Loudoun Counties, VA. A 1924 War Department letter states
>>Reubin married Jane and issued Charlie, William, Mary, and Reubin West.
>>The letter goes on to say this Reubin served in Virginia's 9th
>>Continental Line during the Revolutionary War. Apparently, this letter,
>>Katherine's assertions, and testimony of Lacey West to the Mormon Church
>>are the basis for the various West family genealogies that all point
>>back to Reubin and Jane.
>>
>>Living in Fairfax County, VA makes it easy to conduct research here and
>>the adjacent Loudoun County. Records to indicate a Reubin West ever
>>lived here during the late 1700s and early 1800s do not exist in either
>>county. Neither the Fairfax County historian nor the Loudoun County
>>historical society know of a Reubin West. However, there was a fire at
>>the Fairfax court house back in the 1940s or 50s (don't remember
>>exactly) and the Reubin records may have been destroyed. There were a
>>lot of West's, powerful ones with connections, in Fairfax and Loudoun
>>Counties at the time.
>>
>>What further complicates matters is the reference to the 9th Continental
>>Line (CL) of VA. The 9th CL was formed in Accomack and Northampton
>>Counties, VA. Both counties are on the eastern shore and are separated
>>from Fairfax County by the Chesapeake Bay and Maryland. It is unlikely
>>boys from Fairfax County would journey to Accomack to join up when
>>militias were forming in Fairfax and Loudoun County also. Even if they
>>did make the journey, they would have formed their own companies and
>>would not have intermingled with companies originating from the Eastern
>>Shore.
>>
>>I've only found two references to a Reubin West in Accomack or
>>Northampton -- Revolutionary War records (the same ones Katherine
>>Harrington West used) and an obscure reference in a British Mercantile
>>record that states Reubin "left town" owing debts and his whereabouts
>>were probably Philadelphia, PA. The war records show this Reubin served
>>his time around Philadephia and was often times taken ill and
>>recuperated there. As in Fairfax County, there were a lot of West's
>>from Accomack and Northampton Counties -- all a result of Anthony West
>>who arrived there from England around 1623.
>>
>>Some recent thinking about the parents of Charlie West was first
>>suggested by Joe Day in his book, West-Myers-Malone Family Connections
>>in Green County, Tennessee. He asserts Charlie is the son of William
>>West and [Mary] Rutherford. He also asserts Charlie married Sarah
>>Phillips, not Sarah Crusaw as many claim. Robert Bailey makes the same
>>claims in The West Family Of Scott County, A Different Perspective from
>>the Summer 1998 edition of the Scott County Historical Society
>>Newsletter. Both found a Green County, Tennessee marriage record that
>>shows Charlie married Sarah Phillips in 1803. They were led to this
>>connection from the 1916 Anderson County, Tennessee death certificate
>>for Melvina West, daughter to Charles. I have chosen to use Sarah
>>Phillips rather Sarah Crusaw for now. I have tried to link the Greene
>>Co, TN West Family with the Scott Co, TN line through a Charles West, a
>>"maybe" son of William West and Mary Rutherford of Greene Co. While
>>there is no evidence to support this linkage other than Charles married
>>Sally/Sarah Phillips in Greene Co, there is no evidence to support the
>>contrary either. For the last several years I have said Charles was the
>>son of William and Mary not because I necessarily believed but because
>>there wasn't anywhere else where one could hang a somewhat definitive
>>conclusion about the parents of the illusive Charles West.
>>
>>...tim...
>>
>>Debbie Reymolds wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Another question....I did not find a Reuben West in Fentress in 1830. I
>>>
>>>
>did
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>>>however find a William West. Does anyone know when these two arrived in
>>>
>>>
>the
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>>>area?
>>>Debbie
>>>William West found in:
>>>U.S. Selected Counties, 1830 Census Index
>>>State: TN
>>>County: FENTRESS CO.
>>>Census/Enumeration year: 1832
>>>
>>>William West found in:
>>>U.S. Selected Counties, 1830 Census Index
>>>State: TN
>>>County: FENTRESS CO.
>>>Page #: 14
>>>Census/Enumeration year: 1830
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Debbie Reymolds" <>
>>>To: <>
>>>Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:10 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [TNSCOTT] West
>>>
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>>>>There was a Charles West in Fentress Co in the 1830 census. Does anyone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>know
>>>
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>>>
>>>>if he was our Charles?
>>>>Debbie
>>>>Charles West found in:
>>>>
>>>>U.S. Selected Counties, 1830 Census Index
>>>>State: TN
>>>>County: FENTRESS CO.
>>>>Census/Enumeration year: 1832
>>>>
>>>> Charles West found in:
>>>>
>>>>U.S. Selected Counties, 1830 Census Index
>>>>State: TN
>>>>County: FENTRESS CO.
>>>>Page #: 10
>>>>Census/Enumeration year: 1830
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Timothy N. West" <>
>>>>To: <>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:16 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [TNSCOTT] oldest brickwall?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The parents of Charles West and Sally/Sarah Phillips (both circa
>>>>>1770's-circa 1860's). There are lots of claims but no evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>>...tim west...
>>>>>
>>>>>Debbie Reymolds wrote:
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>>>>>>If you had to chose one ancestor as your oldest brickwall, who would
>>>>>>
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>it
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>>>>be?
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