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Subject: [TGF] article discussion groups, was Re: ProGen Study Group
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:54:30 -0500
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The article groups are open AFAIK, at least the one I'm in is. I think that's
mainly because they aren't as sequential as the ProGen discussions are. (This
month we did Litchman's article on using cluster methodology to backtrack some
Bradberry families from Tennesse to Virginia, June 2007 issue.) Read a few
articles in a recent National Genealogical Society Quarterly and see if you
would like to discuss them in an online chat with other transitionals. If
you're not handy to a library that gets NGSQ and if you're serious enough to
have read this far, I would recommend joining the National Genealogical
Society, which has numerous perks of membership including online access to
several recent years of the Q.

Harold


> If logs of the discussions are kept, they are privately held. Open
> discussion and camaraderie among the participants happens with the
> understanding that what is said "in Vegas, stays in Vegas." I would think
> that anyone who did record an IM chat discussion would have to ask
> permission of all the participants before sending it to others. This would
> only be professional and ethical.
>
> There is a small group who blogs their answers to the discussion questions.
> I am not sure if it is publicly available. Christy?
>
> Another questions would be the Article Discussion Group which came out of
> this list. Does it accept new members and how does it operate? I am not
> involved in that one but believe it is a virtual model of what has been
> happening monthly at the APG Great Lakes Chapter meetings where an NGS
> Quarterly (or other) article is read by the group at least 3 times prior to
> meeting. Then based on that in-depth reading and analysis they discuss
> whether the author proved their point. It is great exercise for creating and
> analyzing proof summaries and narrative genealogies, both elements of the
> certification packet.
>
> Best,
> -- Elissa
>
> Elissa Scalise Powell, CG
> www.PowellGenealogy.com
> CG and Certified Genealogist are Service Marks of the Board for
> Certification of Genealogists used under license after periodic evaluations
> by the Board.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LeRoy Atkins
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:19 AM
> >
> > Christy and Elissa,
> >
> > Thank you each. If others express interest I would like to participate. In
> > the mean time I would like a list of questions which have been discussed.
> >
> > If the discussion logs are accessible, please let me know where to access
> > them .
> >
> > Thank you,
> > LeRoy Atkins
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christy Fillerup" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 7:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TGF] ProGen Study Group
> >
> >
> > > Thanks Elissa. I apologize, I am just now getting caught up on email.
> > >
> > > The ProGen group was the brain child of Mad Scientist Lee Anders, with
> > > Angela McGhie and myself acting as trusty Igor-like sidekicks. The
> group
> > > was designed to study the manual "Professional Genealogy," edited by
> > > Elizabeth Shown Mills. We divided the chapters so that most months we
> will
> > > cover two complimentary chapters, a few months we will cover only one,
> and
> > > for one or two chapters we will extend the study over two months. We
> are
> > > divided into discussion groups, and from there into peer groups. Each
> > > member
> > > has at least two other peers that help review assignments (reports,
> > > contracts, etc.) and provide feedback. We also meet once a month via
> chat
> > > in
> > > discussion groups to discuss what we've read and ask questions of our
> > > wonderful mentor, Elissa.
> > >
> > > The group is set up to try and maintain set peer groups throughout the
> 18
> > > months, so additions aren't allowed. If there is enough interest,
> > > however,
> > > and a brave sole who will take charge I would be happy to help them set
> up
> > > their own study group from our model.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Christy Fillerup
> > >
> > > Millenealogy Family History Research
> > > Salt Lake City, Utah
> > > www.millenealogy.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Elissa Scalise Powell, CG" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TGF] ProGen Study Group
> > >
> > >
> > >> Patti, LeRoy, et al,
> > >>
> > >> The ProGen Study group was put together in late winter this year to
> study
> > >> the book "Professional Genealogy" with monthly chapter readings,
> > >> assignments, and discussions. The organizers have done a very good job
> of
> > >> putting together peer review groups and discussion groupings of the
> peer
> > >> groups. In the beginning I believe it was a set up to not allow much
> > >> movement in or out of the group until the completion of the book which
> > >> they
> > >> projected taking 18 months. I will let some of the group leaders to
> give
> > >> further details.
> > >>
> > >> I have quite enjoyed playing advisor and resource to the 5 ProGen Study
> > >> discussion groups each month. Although each group has the same pre-set
> > >> questions based on that month's chapter reading and assignments, the
> > >> discussion takes off in different directions, as you would expect, with
> > >> different life experiences.
> > >>
> > >> There are other ways to learn the ins and outs of what it takes to be a
> > >> professional genealogist:
> > >> You could read ProGen yourself.
> > >> You can use this list as a sounding board.
> > >> You *should* read the archives which go back to December since many
> > >> pearls
> > >> of wisdom were shared earlier.
> > >> You can join the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) for
> their
> > >> Quarterly and discount on books (like ProGen).
> > >> You can attend the APG Professional Management Conference held each
> year
> > >> on
> > >> the Wednesday of the FGS conference. This year it is in Philadelphia on
> > >> September 3, next year it is in Little Rock, Arkansas (see
> www.APGen.org)
> > >> You can join the APG-L list (see the archives link at www.APGen.org
> under
> > >> publications)
> > >> The Institute for Genealogy and Historical Research (IGHR) held at
> > >> Samford
> > >> University each June has a one-week long Professional Genealogy course
> in
> > >> the odd-numbered years. (Plan now for next June!)
> > >> And the newest program will be a Certificate in Genealogical Research
> to
> > >> be
> > >> taught at Boston University beginning January. This is a 14-week course
> > >> held
> > >> on Saturdays from Jan. 17 through April 25. See
> > >> http://professional.bu.edu/cpe/Genealogy.asp
> > >>
> > >> If you are earnest about learning the business of genealogy and
> > >> transitioning into becoming a professional, then this list supports
> that
> > >> goal. Thanks for joining us.
> > >>
> > >> -- Elissa in Pittsburgh, PA
> > >>
> > >> Elissa Scalise Powell, CG
> > >> www.PowellGenealogy.com
> > >> CG and Certified Genealogist are Service Marks of the Board for
> > >> Certification of Genealogists used under license after periodic
> > >> evaluations
> > >> by the Board.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: LeRoy Atkins
> > >>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:29 PM
> > >>>
> > >>> If this group is currently going I also would like to participate in
> the
> > >> discussion.
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Patti Hobbs" <>
> > >>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:42 PM
> > >>>
> > >>> >I haven't been on this list for very long (2 months), but I was told
> > >>> > that I'd probably see the information about the ProGen group come up
> > >>> > on the list. All I've seen so far are references about it and not
> any
> > >>> > information about becoming involved with it. What is it? Is it
> > >>> > something I'd be interested in???:-)
> > >>
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Harold Henderson
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