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From: Patti Hobbs <>
Subject: Re: [TGF] article discussion groups, was Re: ProGen Study Group
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:49:54 -0500
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Yes, I am interested. I already read the NGS Quarterly. I'm just
getting ready now to be gone to Pennsylvania for 2.5 weeks. So I
wouldn't be TOO interested until I got back (I could join and just not
participate if someone directed me to the right place.)

Patti
On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:54 AM, wrote:

> The article groups are open AFAIK, at least the one I'm in is. I
> think that's
> mainly because they aren't as sequential as the ProGen discussions
> are. (This
> month we did Litchman's article on using cluster methodology to
> backtrack some
> Bradberry families from Tennesse to Virginia, June 2007 issue.) Read
> a few
> articles in a recent National Genealogical Society Quarterly and see
> if you
> would like to discuss them in an online chat with other
> transitionals. If
> you're not handy to a library that gets NGSQ and if you're serious
> enough to
> have read this far, I would recommend joining the National
> Genealogical
> Society, which has numerous perks of membership including online
> access to
> several recent years of the Q.
>
> Harold
>
>
>> If logs of the discussions are kept, they are privately held. Open
>> discussion and camaraderie among the participants happens with the
>> understanding that what is said "in Vegas, stays in Vegas." I would
>> think
>> that anyone who did record an IM chat discussion would have to ask
>> permission of all the participants before sending it to others.
>> This would
>> only be professional and ethical.
>>
>> There is a small group who blogs their answers to the discussion
>> questions.
>> I am not sure if it is publicly available. Christy?
>>
>> Another questions would be the Article Discussion Group which came
>> out of
>> this list. Does it accept new members and how does it operate? I am
>> not
>> involved in that one but believe it is a virtual model of what has
>> been
>> happening monthly at the APG Great Lakes Chapter meetings where an
>> NGS
>> Quarterly (or other) article is read by the group at least 3 times
>> prior to
>> meeting. Then based on that in-depth reading and analysis they
>> discuss
>> whether the author proved their point. It is great exercise for
>> creating and
>> analyzing proof summaries and narrative genealogies, both elements
>> of the
>> certification packet.
>>
>> Best,
>> -- Elissa
>>
>> Elissa Scalise Powell, CG
>> www.PowellGenealogy.com
>> CG and Certified Genealogist are Service Marks of the Board for
>> Certification of Genealogists used under license after periodic
>> evaluations
>> by the Board.
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LeRoy Atkins
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:19 AM
>>>
>>> Christy and Elissa,
>>>
>>> Thank you each. If others express interest I would like to
>>> participate. In
>>> the mean time I would like a list of questions which have been
>>> discussed.
>>>
>>> If the discussion logs are accessible, please let me know where to
>>> access
>>> them .
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> LeRoy Atkins
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Christy Fillerup" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 7:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TGF] ProGen Study Group
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Elissa. I apologize, I am just now getting caught up on
>>>> email.
>>>>
>>>> The ProGen group was the brain child of Mad Scientist Lee Anders,
>>>> with
>>>> Angela McGhie and myself acting as trusty Igor-like sidekicks. The
>> group
>>>> was designed to study the manual "Professional Genealogy," edited
>>>> by
>>>> Elizabeth Shown Mills. We divided the chapters so that most
>>>> months we
>> will
>>>> cover two complimentary chapters, a few months we will cover only
>>>> one,
>> and
>>>> for one or two chapters we will extend the study over two
>>>> months. We
>> are
>>>> divided into discussion groups, and from there into peer groups.
>>>> Each
>>>> member
>>>> has at least two other peers that help review assignments (reports,
>>>> contracts, etc.) and provide feedback. We also meet once a month
>>>> via
>> chat
>>>> in
>>>> discussion groups to discuss what we've read and ask questions of
>>>> our
>>>> wonderful mentor, Elissa.
>>>>
>>>> The group is set up to try and maintain set peer groups
>>>> throughout the
>> 18
>>>> months, so additions aren't allowed. If there is enough interest,
>>>> however,
>>>> and a brave sole who will take charge I would be happy to help
>>>> them set
>> up
>>>> their own study group from our model.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christy Fillerup
>>>>
>>>> Millenealogy Family History Research
>>>> Salt Lake City, Utah
>>>> www.millenealogy.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Elissa Scalise Powell, CG" <>
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:41 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TGF] ProGen Study Group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Patti, LeRoy, et al,
>>>>>
>>>>> The ProGen Study group was put together in late winter this year
>>>>> to
>> study
>>>>> the book "Professional Genealogy" with monthly chapter readings,
>>>>> assignments, and discussions. The organizers have done a very
>>>>> good job
>> of
>>>>> putting together peer review groups and discussion groupings of
>>>>> the
>> peer
>>>>> groups. In the beginning I believe it was a set up to not allow
>>>>> much
>>>>> movement in or out of the group until the completion of the book
>>>>> which
>>>>> they
>>>>> projected taking 18 months. I will let some of the group leaders
>>>>> to
>> give
>>>>> further details.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have quite enjoyed playing advisor and resource to the 5
>>>>> ProGen Study
>>>>> discussion groups each month. Although each group has the same
>>>>> pre-set
>>>>> questions based on that month's chapter reading and assignments,
>>>>> the
>>>>> discussion takes off in different directions, as you would
>>>>> expect, with
>>>>> different life experiences.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are other ways to learn the ins and outs of what it takes
>>>>> to be a
>>>>> professional genealogist:
>>>>> You could read ProGen yourself.
>>>>> You can use this list as a sounding board.
>>>>> You *should* read the archives which go back to December since
>>>>> many
>>>>> pearls
>>>>> of wisdom were shared earlier.
>>>>> You can join the Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)
>>>>> for
>> their
>>>>> Quarterly and discount on books (like ProGen).
>>>>> You can attend the APG Professional Management Conference held
>>>>> each
>> year
>>>>> on
>>>>> the Wednesday of the FGS conference. This year it is in
>>>>> Philadelphia on
>>>>> September 3, next year it is in Little Rock, Arkansas (see
>> www.APGen.org)
>>>>> You can join the APG-L list (see the archives link at
>>>>> www.APGen.org
>> under
>>>>> publications)
>>>>> The Institute for Genealogy and Historical Research (IGHR) held at
>>>>> Samford
>>>>> University each June has a one-week long Professional Genealogy
>>>>> course
>> in
>>>>> the odd-numbered years. (Plan now for next June!)
>>>>> And the newest program will be a Certificate in Genealogical
>>>>> Research
>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>> taught at Boston University beginning January. This is a 14-week
>>>>> course
>>>>> held
>>>>> on Saturdays from Jan. 17 through April 25. See
>>>>> http://professional.bu.edu/cpe/Genealogy.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are earnest about learning the business of genealogy and
>>>>> transitioning into becoming a professional, then this list
>>>>> supports
>> that
>>>>> goal. Thanks for joining us.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Elissa in Pittsburgh, PA
>>>>>
>>>>> Elissa Scalise Powell, CG
>>>>> www.PowellGenealogy.com
>>>>> CG and Certified Genealogist are Service Marks of the Board for
>>>>> Certification of Genealogists used under license after periodic
>>>>> evaluations
>>>>> by the Board.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: LeRoy Atkins
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:29 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this group is currently going I also would like to
>>>>>> participate in
>> the
>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Patti Hobbs" <>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:42 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't been on this list for very long (2 months), but I
>>>>>>> was told
>>>>>>> that I'd probably see the information about the ProGen group
>>>>>>> come up
>>>>>>> on the list. All I've seen so far are references about it and
>>>>>>> not
>> any
>>>>>>> information about becoming involved with it. What is it? Is it
>>>>>>> something I'd be interested in???:-)
>>>>>
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