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From: Meredith Hoffman / GenerationsWeb <>
Subject: Re: [TGF] Certification vs. education (Was: Usability [wasGenealogy as a discipline])
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:43:04 -0500
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My jaw dropped when I read this response of yours. Aside from how rude
this is, it hardly follows as a sound conclusion from the "evidence"
-- i.e., the entire prior conversation, which up until this point I
thought was quite civil and interesting.

As someone who plans to start the clock on my BCG certification within
the next six months, I've been following the conversation with some
interest, and also with some understanding that there's a large
backstory and probably an unspoken agenda at play here, although I'm
only guessing at some of the historical details.

Whatever those historical details are, and whatever your grievances
with the BCG in general and/or Elizabeth in particular are, Jeanette,
I'm astonished that you could end up with this "statement of fact."

I hope that we can rescue this conversation. I'm interested in
understanding the issue of "certifying the certifiers" and would like
to hear more from Elizabeth, Tom, and others about what -- if anything
-- is actually at stake vis-a-vis ICE certification.


Meredith Hoffman / GenerationsWeb
Plymouth, MA

On 2010Jan27, at 1:14 PM, Jeanette Daniels wrote:

> Elizabeth,
> I learned that the Association of Pet Sitters cares enough about their
> organization to be properly certified.
> Jeanette
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "" <>
> To:
> Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 11:03:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [TGF] Certification vs. education (Was: Usability [was
> Genealogy as a discipline])
> Jeanette wrote:
>> Elizabeth and Others,
>> I do have the answer to the question about the Association of Pet Dog
> Trainers as well as what it would take financially for the BCG to be
> accredited through the ICE (formerly NOCA).
> Jeanette, your conclusions are interesting. But, as with all things in
> genealogy, accurate conclusions require accurate facts and correct
> interpretations.
> Hasty projections based on superficial research in limited data,
> misassumptions, and bias are invariably misleading and
> counterproductive.
> I'm sure every trustee/director of every organization in our field
> wishes
> that financial management was simple enough that we could conceive
> an idea
> amid a night-time discussion, 'call someone' for information first
> thing in
> the morning when an agency opens, and by 10:18 a.m. have a whole
> budgetary
> plan backed up by 'number crunching.'
> So what *did* you learn from ICE about the Association of Pet Dog
> Trainers?
> :)
> Elizabeth
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG

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