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From: Jeanette Daniels <>
Subject: Re: [TGF] FW: Degrees of Professionality?
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:25:02 -0800 (PST)
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Degrees have always held more clout when applying for jobs. Some jobs won't take
a self-trained person regardless of how good he works or how knowledgeable he is.

The knowledge that a good genealogical research degree gives students is experience
in researching different situations for whatever the research specialties are that the student
choose to study. That student is ready before graduation to tackle any research situation or
knows where to go to ask for guidance.

Current BCG or AG certification/accreditation have not been written with the genealogically
research trained applicant in mind. So, right now, there would have to be major changes.

Again, there is the problem that neither board has gone through an actual certification or
accreditation process itself, and therefore might not have all necessary components in its
own program to qualify for those.


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From: Michele Kemper <>
To: Transitional Genealogy Forum <>
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 10:00:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TGF] FW: Degrees of Professionality?

(First off. I know many are getting weary of this discussion and I apologize to those that want to move on. I am looking for clarification.)


>From earlier posts, you have indicated you want a separate certification process for those that get an advanced degree or certificate. My questions to you are these:

What makes an advanced degree or certificate so different from the practical experience that many of us bring to this profession?
Is it so different that the BCG and ICAPGen certifications are not good enough?
Why would a degree make someone more qualified to do government or legal genealogical work than an experienced person without a degree?

Thank you,

Michele Kemper
Kemper Research Services


"Someone can go to school and get all the theory they can. However, unless they know how to apply that
knowledge in the real world, their degree is meaningless. I also know
some self-taught IT people that are not willing to expand their skill
sets or learn new ways of doing things. They quickly become outdated and left behind in the world of IT.

"4. A genealogy degree or
certificate does not make a bit of difference in practical application
and the ability to keep up on skill sets. You might have an advanced set of skills if you get a degree. But, unless you can apply it
effectively, it is only a piece of paper to hang on the wall.

"Knowledge comes in many forms. To place one "higher" than another is arrogant."


I couldn't agree more.??A theory-based degree without practical use?is
useless.? I've seen people on this list claim that is the only?type of
genealogical degree that?meets their high standards.? On another
genealogy email list, theory was placed so high that when questioned
about having a degree that stressed the practical use of genealogical
research, it was said that perhaps in 30 years someone else would figure out how to change the theory degree to go beyond the theoretical base
that was so important and met the educational needs of genealogist right now.? In fact, the theoretical base is considered a breakthrough in
genealogical research by some.


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