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Subject: Re: [TGF] EE Discussion - Example for analysis (2)
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 16:00:43 -0700
So, the first two images don't look like the same handwriting to you?
They look very similar to me, and, from what I can tell, they include
entries from Ezekiel ,Robert and William.
Again, I am by no means a handwriting expert. But because of this
apparent similarity, I would check the source very carefully before
labeling it "original."
Copies can be handwritten and old too! <g>
Linda
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Linda Gardner
Massachusetts
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [TGF] EE Discussion - Example for analysis (2)
> From: Michele Kemper <>
> Date: Sat, October 09, 2010 6:09 pm
> To:
> Cc:
>
>
> Linda,
>
> I would classify it as an original because the same person did not write
> every record in that book. The handwriting changes as the clerks of the
> court changes every few years. The book also shows its age much more
> than the typewriter transcription on Book A.
>
> Michele
>
> On 10/9/2010 5:10 PM, wrote:
> > Michelle,
> >
> > I have doubts whether the 2nd example could be called "original" since
> > it appears that records "written" by different individuals "under my
> > hand" are in the same handwriting. I am not a handwriting expert and
> > have only briefly looked at the first couple images but this is my
> > impression and it is a factor I would examine more carefully if these
> > were records I wanted to use and I wanted to assess whether they were
> > "original" or "derivative."
> >
> > Linda
> > ____________
> > Linda Gardner
> > Massachusetts
> >
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: Re: [TGF] EE Discussion - Example for analysis (2)
> >> From: Michele Kemper<>
> >> Date: Sat, October 09, 2010 10:45 am
> >> To:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, everyone.
> >>
> >> Before I post the next example, I wanted to give some information on the
> >> two examples below. I deliberately did not provide information to spark
> >> conversation.
> >>
> >> The first example is a transcription done of the original volume. At
> >> some point in the past, the original book disappeared. I have not been
> >> able to determine exactly when the original disappeared or when the
> >> transcription was made. But, I am still trying to track that down. I
> >> would classify this as a derivative source.
> >>
> >> The second volume is, I believe, the original. It is the official
> >> government document that a marriage occurred in the county. I think that
> >> would qualify it as an original source.
> >>
> >> Michele
> >>
> >> On 10/1/2010 9:54 AM, Michele Kemper wrote:
> >>> Hello.
> >>>
> >>> It looks like examples are going to keep everyone thinking.
> >>>
> >>> I have another example. Actually it is two example from the same parent
> >>> webpage. It looks at two marriage books from Knox County, Kentucky.
> >>> These are website images, but I have worked with both of the actual
> >>> volumes.
> >>>
> >>> Book A (1800-1850)
> >>>
> >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyknox/Marriage-Certificates/Book-A/Book-A.html
> >>> <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Ekyknox/Marriage-Certificates/Book-A/Book-A.html>;
> >>>
> >>> Book B
> >>>
> >>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyknox/Marriage-Certificates/Book-B/Book-B.html
> >>> <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Ekyknox/Marriage-Certificates/Book-B/Book-B.html>;
> >>>
> >>> 1. Original or derivative sources?
> >>> 2. Primary or secondary information? Which pieces of information fit
> >>> those categories?
> >>> 3. Do you give more weight to Book A or Book B for common research
> >>> questions such as "John Doe marries Jane Smith"?
> >>> 4. Do you have any thoughts on this example?
> >>>
> >>> Happy hunting,
> >>>
> >>> Michele
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