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From: Jacqueline Wilson <>
Subject: Re: [TGF] Author's Rights and Submitting to Journals
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:49:59 -0600
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Jay, I think the problem with this particular publication is the fact that they want the copyright based on submission alone. What if they do not publish it? Unless they plan to publish every submission, this is just not right in my mind. The writing of the paragraph was very confusing and seems to contradict itself. Then I re-read it after reading the other posts and think I now understand what is being said.

The idea is to prevent other journals from taking the piece from the journal and reprint it. If the author submits it to the other journal then it is ok for the other publisher to print it.

At least I think that is what is said. What bothers me is the statement "All works submitted to the Indiana Genealogical Society
> (and its subsidiaries) for publication become the property of the Society and all copyrights are assigned to the Society." Submission should not transfer copyright, but only upon acceptance.

Jacqueline Wilson
Evanston, IL

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On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:16 AM, wrote:

In a message dated 1/10/2011 11:05:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,

All this talk about writing has prompted me to ask a question about
author's rights. Is it unusual or not that by simply submitting a work
to a genealogical society to be considered for publication in its
journal or newsletter, you have given the society ownership and all
rights to your work? I ask because after reading the author guidelines
on the Indiana Genealogical Society's website, I think that is what it
says happens when you submit any work to that society. Although at the
end of the paragraph, it says the contributor has the right to submit
the work elsewhere, and has the society's permission to do so. Talk
about confused!

I am not an attorney or any kind of copyright expert, but I think your
questions involve two separate issues.

1) the question of copyright -- the author of a copyrightable creative work
owns the copyright unless the author contractually gives it up. Different
journals in different fields have different requirements for publication.
Commonly, the author by contract grants a magazine or journal exclusive
publication rights for a period of time (for example, one year from
publication). But, it is my understanding that some academic journals require the
author to completely give up copyright.

2) submitting an article to more than one journal or magazine. I think
this is largely a matter of the ethics of author-publisher relationships. You
should not send an article to a second publisher unless you have withdrawn
it from the first.

Jay Fonkert, CG
Saint Paul, MN

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