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Subject: Re: [TGF] [APG Members] National Archives in Washington,D.C - preliminary inventory - 3 questions
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:16:19 -0500
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LeRoy,


What exactly are you trying to locate? If you are looking for a physical description of him that might be found in his Compiled Military Service Record [CMSR].

Your soldier may have applied for a pension. There are 2 indexes to check T288 The General Pension Index and T289 The Orgizational Index to Pensions. [Both in Record Group 15] both indexes are at NARA. T288 is on Ancestry and T289 is on Footnote but if you don't find him listed double check on the microfilm index.

Dpending on what you are looking for you may need to talk with an Archivist when you are at NARA. You'll have to tell the Archivist what you have already checked and what you are looking for. If it's a physical description then they will probably send you to the CMSR. .

He may have a Southern Claims Commission File. This series is indexed by "Southern Loyalists in the Civil War. The Southern Claims Commission." Gary B. Mills. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1994. Some of these have been digitized but if he is not located on the digitized version double check when you arrive at NARA.

Depending on what you are looking for will be what you need to order from the Preliminary Inventory. When ordering records allow enough time. A pension file will take an hour or more to read through. Copies can be made and taken home with you to read at your leisure..
Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---------------------------------------------------------------
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.





> From:
> To: ;
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:15:29 -0700
> Subject: [APG Members] National Archives in Washington, D.C - preliminary inventory - 3 questions
>
> This month I will be at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. for the
> first time. While I am there I will research a man who served in the Colored
> Infantry during the Civil War.
>
>
> The preliminary inventory for the Adjutanant General's Office, compiled by
> Lucille H. Pendell and Elizabeth Bethel, indicates there were about 40
> entries for the Colored Troops Division, 1863-89.
>
> >
> As I read the preliminary inventory it appears there is more than just
> reading a single microfilm. The records of the Adjutanant General's Office
> are essentially organized by divisions that were created over the course of
> our nation's history. One such division is the "Colored Troops Division,
> 1863-89." The document files are described as "entries." Some of the entries
> could list my subjects name and describe him. Therefore it appears that I
> should be looking as some of those records in addition to what I had
> envisioned I would see on a microfilm that I found in the Civil War Soldiers
> and Sailors System. Is that correct?
>
>
>
> If that is the case, as I understand I should place a request for files to
> be pulled as soon as I can so I will have time to read them. Is that
> correct?
>
>
>
> Entry 391, for descriptive lists in 1864 consists of 54 volumes. It refers
> to an order of the department of the Missouri in 1863. The file is arranged
> chronolgically, but it does contain an index. Would I ask for all 54 volumes
> so that I am sure I am able to see the index and then move quickly to the
> appropriate entry?
>
>
>
> Thank you for looking at my detailed questions.
>
>
>
> LeRoy Atkins
>
> Mesa, AZ
>
=


























































Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services
---------------------------------------------------------------
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.



-----Original Message-----
From: Ruth Randall <>
To: ; ; APGMembers Only List <>
Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: [APG Members] National Archives in Washington, D.C - preliminary inventory - 3 questions


Dear Le Roy,

Have you looked for your subject in Ancestry.com's US Civil War Records and Profiles? If your subject is included on that site, it will incude his date of enlistment, and, state served and his date of birth. Ancestry's Index of Civl War Pension Index includes the claimant's Company and Regiment and his applicagtion and certificate numbers.

Pllease do not assume that a member of the US Colored Troops who ws a resident of Missouiri was necessarily a member of the Confederacy. The Adjutant General of the War Department issued General Order No. 329 on 3 October 1863 which provided for the slaveowners in Missouri, Maryland (Confederate states that did not secede from the Union) and Tennessee (which was by then under the control of the Union) to offer their slaves for enlistment. Slaveholders were to be compensated a maximum of $300 for the service or labor of a slave.

Regards,
Ruth Randall



> From:
> To: ;
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:15:29 -0700
> Subject: [APG Members] National Archives in Washington, D.C - preliminary inventory - 3 questions
>
> This month I will be at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. for the
> first time. While I am there I will research a man who served in the Colored
> Infantry during the Civil War.
>
>
>
> The preliminary inventory for the Adjutanant General's Office, compiled by
> Lucille H. Pendell and Elizabeth Bethel, indicates there were about 40
> entries for the Colored Troops Division, 1863-89.
>
>
>
> As I read the preliminary inventory it appears there is more than just
> reading a single microfilm. The records of the Adjutanant General's Office
> are essentially organized by divisions that were created over the course of
> our nation's history. One such division is the "Colored Troops Division,
> 1863-89." The document files are described as "entries." Some of the entries
> could list my subjects name and describe him. Therefore it appears that I
> should be looking as some of those records in addition to what I had
> envisioned I would see on a microfilm that I found in the Civil War Soldiers
> and Sailors System. Is that correct?
>
>
>
> If that is the case, as I understand I should place a request for files to
> be pulled as soon as I can so I will have time to read them. Is that
> correct?
>
>
>
> Entry 391, for descriptive lists in 1864 consists of 54 volumes. It refers
> to an order of the department of the Missouri in 1863. The file is arranged
> chronolgically, but it does contain an index. Would I ask for all 54 volumes
> so that I am sure I am able to see the index and then move quickly to the
> appropriate entry?
>
>
>
> Thank you for looking at my detailed questions.
>
>
>
> LeRoy Atkins
>
> Mesa, AZ
>
=

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---------------------------------------------------------------
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.





> From:
> To: ;
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:15:29 -0700
> Subject: [APG Members] National Archives in Washington, D.C - preliminary inventory - 3 questions
>
> This month I will be at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. for the
> first time. While I am there I will research a man who served in the Colored
> Infantry during the Civil War.
>
>
> The preliminary inventory for the Adjutanant General's Office, compiled by
> Lucille H. Pendell and Elizabeth Bethel, indicates there were about 40
> entries for the Colored Troops Division, 1863-89.
>
> >
> As I read the preliminary inventory it appears there is more than just
> reading a single microfilm. The records of the Adjutanant General's Office
> are essentially organized by divisions that were created over the course of
> our nation's history. One such division is the "Colored Troops Division,
> 1863-89." The document files are described as "entries." Some of the entries
> could list my subjects name and describe him. Therefore it appears that I
> should be looking as some of those records in addition to what I had
> envisioned I would see on a microfilm that I found in the Civil War Soldiers
> and Sailors System. Is that correct?
>
>
>
> If that is the case, as I understand I should place a request for files to
> be pulled as soon as I can so I will have time to read them. Is that
> correct?
>
>
>
> Entry 391, for descriptive lists in 1864 consists of 54 volumes. It refers
> to an order of the department of the Missouri in 1863. The file is arranged
> chronolgically, but it does contain an index. Would I ask for all 54 volumes
> so that I am sure I am able to see the index and then move quickly to the
> appropriate entry?
>
>
>
> Thank you for looking at my detailed questions.
>
>
>
> LeRoy Atkins
>
> Mesa, AZ
>
=


























































Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services
---------------------------------------------------------------
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.



-----Original Message-----
From: Ruth Randall <>
To: ; ; APGMembers Only List <>
Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: [APG Members] National Archives in Washington, D.C - preliminary inventory - 3 questions


Dear Le Roy,

Have you looked for your subject in Ancestry.com's US Civil War Records and Profiles? If your subject is included on that site, it will incude his date of enlistment, and, state served and his date of birth. Ancestry's Index of Civl War Pension Index includes the claimant's Company and Regiment and his applicagtion and certificate numbers.

Pllease do not assume that a member of the US Colored Troops who ws a resident of Missouiri was necessarily a member of the Confederacy. The Adjutant General of the War Department issued General Order No. 329 on 3 October 1863 which provided for the slaveowners in Missouri, Maryland (Confederate states that did not secede from the Union) and Tennessee (which was by then under the control of the Union) to offer their slaves for enlistment. Slaveholders were to be compensated a maximum of $300 for the service or labor of a slave.

Regards,
Ruth Randall



> From:
> To: ;
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 10:15:29 -0700
> Subject: [APG Members] National Archives in Washington, D.C - preliminary inventory - 3 questions
>
> This month I will be at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. for the
> first time. While I am there I will research a man who served in the Colored
> Infantry during the Civil War.
>
>
>
> The preliminary inventory for the Adjutanant General's Office, compiled by
> Lucille H. Pendell and Elizabeth Bethel, indicates there were about 40
> entries for the Colored Troops Division, 1863-89.
>
>
>
> As I read the preliminary inventory it appears there is more than just
> reading a single microfilm. The records of the Adjutanant General's Office
> are essentially organized by divisions that were created over the course of
> our nation's history. One such division is the "Colored Troops Division,
> 1863-89." The document files are described as "entries." Some of the entries
> could list my subjects name and describe him. Therefore it appears that I
> should be looking as some of those records in addition to what I had
> envisioned I would see on a microfilm that I found in the Civil War Soldiers
> and Sailors System. Is that correct?
>
>
>
> If that is the case, as I understand I should place a request for files to
> be pulled as soon as I can so I will have time to read them. Is that
> correct?
>
>
>
> Entry 391, for descriptive lists in 1864 consists of 54 volumes. It refers
> to an order of the department of the Missouri in 1863. The file is arranged
> chronolgically, but it does contain an index. Would I ask for all 54 volumes
> so that I am sure I am able to see the index and then move quickly to the
> appropriate entry?
>
>
>
> Thank you for looking at my detailed questions.
>
>
>
> LeRoy Atkins
>
> Mesa, AZ
>
=


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