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From: Jacqueline Wilson <>
Subject: Re: [TGF] [APG Members] National Archives in Washington,D.C - preliminary inventor...
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:35:42 -0600
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May I suggest that those of you of the same mind as Jim Madden read the following book: Black Confederates and Afro-Yankees in Civil War Virginia (A Nation Divided: New Studies in Civil War History by Ervin L Jordan Jr. PhD. ISBN-13: 978-0813915456

There were black soldiers on both sides of the war and the above mentioned book is full of primary source material including pensions paid to black confederate soldiers. The fact that General Patrick Cleburne's suggestion about drafting blacks to fill the ranks made negative waves in the high command is not relevant to the fact that blacks played an important role in the Southern army, be they there as fighting men, body servants, teamsters or whatever.


On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:41 PM, wrote:

Michael.

Not to get into a great debate here. but there were NO black Confederates
under arms, despite what some columnist say may be fact. Just recently
there was a controversy about school text books in Virginia because they stated
just that. The author, who wrote children stories before this, claimed she
got that research on the Internet and recanted that fact after she could
not point to period research to back that up. Many scholars weighted in on
this subject of this VA text book and not one of them found anything to
support that claim. I believe someone here already pointed out the General
Order the Confederates States issues, a bit late.

Your point that there are "no specific" doesn't make it a fact.

Jim Madden
njcivilwar150.org


In a message dated 2/3/2011 1:31:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:

Le Roy,

There were black confederates. Check the Walter Williams, a black
columnist,
article in the Washington Post on Oct 20,2010. He quotes Fredrick
Douglas,
Horace Greeley's American Conflict 1866, and Charles H. Wesley a black
historian.

No specifics except "there were 16 companies of free men of color that
marched
through Agusta, Georgia,, on their way to fight in Virginia."

Leave no stone unturned,
Michael Helmantoler


----- Original Message ----
> From: LeRoy Atkins <>
> To: ;
>
> Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 10:15:29 AM
> Subject: [APG Members] National Archives in Washington, D.C -
preliminary
> inventory - 3 questions
>
> This month I will be at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. for
the first
> time. While I am there I will research a man who served in the Colored
Infantry
> during the Civil War.
>
>
>
> The preliminary inventory for the Adjutanant General's Office, compiled
by
> Lucille H. Pendell and Elizabeth Bethel, indicates there were about 40
entries
> for the Colored Troops Division, 1863-89.
>
>
>
> As I read the preliminary inventory it appears there is more than just
reading
> a single microfilm. The records of the Adjutanant General's Office are
> essentially organized by divisions that were created over the course of
our
> nation's history. One such division is the "Colored Troops Division,
1863-89."
> The document files are described as "entries." Some of the entries could
list
> my subjects name and describe him. Therefore it appears that I should be
> looking as some of those records in addition to what I had envisioned I
would
> see on a microfilm that I found in the Civil War Soldiers and Sailors
System.
> Is that correct?
>
>
>
> If that is the case, as I understand I should place a request for files
to be
> pulled as soon as I can so I will have time to read them. Is that
correct?
>
>
>
> Entry 391, for descriptive lists in 1864 consists of 54 volumes. It
refers to
> an order of the department of the Missouri in 1863. The file is arranged

> chronolgically, but it does contain an index. Would I ask for all 54
volumes so
> that I am sure I am able to see the index and then move quickly to the
> appropriate entry?
>
>
>
> Thank you for looking at my detailed questions.
>
>
>
> LeRoy Atkins
>
> Mesa, AZ
>
>




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