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From: "Dee Dee King,Certified Genealogist" <>
Subject: Re: [TGF] FindAGrave: Am I Being Overly Sensitive?
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:34:57 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <F236D29A978F4B73B1D39F26B6B6B04C@Netbook1>


Newspapers I've worked for, with, and owned would argue that they do have copyright and that their newspapers are not public domain.

best regards,

Dee


----- Original Message -----
From: "Morris Simon" <>
To: "Connie Sheets" <>,
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2011 7:30:57 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [TGF] FindAGrave: Am I Being Overly Sensitive?

It is astonishing that the Find A Grave site would permit publishing a grave
memorial before there was a grave! Surely someone at that useful and highly
visible resource would check on such things before permitting their posting
to the site. But I guess not.

To me, copying and pasting obituaries from newspapers is not offensive.
Newspapers are public, and the contributers of obituaries should know that
the contents, including names and other details about living people, are
being made available to anyone who reads the obituary. And in our cyberspace
world, even the tiniest newspaper item can reach worldwide readership in the
blink of an eye.

While I do question the timeliness of the FindAGrave memorial, I think
newspaper publication makes it fair game for wide distribution with
appropriate citations.

Morris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Connie Sheets" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:04 PM
Subject: [TGF] FindAGrave: Am I Being Overly Sensitive?


It must be my week for discovering that many people think they can copy and
paste anything and everything they find pertaining to a deceased person
without consequences.

A close relative passed away a few months ago. Much to my surprise, I
discovered today that a stranger created a FindAGrave memorial within days
of the death by copying the obituary (that I wrote) in total (including
names and residences of the survivors).

I knew the obituary would be published in two small(ish) newspapers and in
their online editions. It never crossed my mind that someone would take it
upon themselves to copy and paste it into FindAGrave two days before she was
buried.

Obviously, my relative no longer has privacy rights, and of course I knew
the obituary would contain information that might be used by others, but I
am appalled, not only by the apparent copyright infringement but by the lack
of respect for the survivors. Am I being overly sensitive?

I have written to the memorial creator/apparent plagiarist and asked that
she remove the obituary (unless she has written permission from the
newspaper, and even then I would think she/they would need permission from
me since I'm the author?) and transfer the maintenance of the memorial to
me. I will follow up with FindAGrave (and the newspapers who published the
obituary, if necessary) if I do not receive a satisfactory response.

But in the interim, I wanted to "warn" others who may be sensitive to such
things that very recent obituaries complete with details about living people
are being copied willy-nilly into FindAGrave.

Of course, the flip-side of that is "don't forget FindAGrave if you haven't
checked it out for awhile." It can be a great resource; you never know when
you're going to find yourself there.

Connie Sheets
Tempe, AZ








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