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From: Harold Henderson <>
Subject: Re: [TGF] citation questions
Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 16:13:30 -0500
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Jennifer --

Those are reasonable questions. I can't recall having seen it done (I need
to get out more), but it would seem a reasonable part of the source
description to add something like "Clipping. Date, page, and column
supplied." That way if someone were to fail to find the article in the state
place in an intact newspaper or microfilm, you would clearly be off the
hook. To some extent identifying the intermediary takes care of this, but I
still think it's a good addition.

I guess we've all waded through endless scrapbooked newspaper clippings
without a shred of identifying information, but that doesn't mean that when
the information is there it will always be right!

Harold

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Jennifer Guimond <>wrote:

> Harold,
>
> Thanks so much for your feedback. I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to
> use the newspaper model in EE, because all that's in the database is a
> clipping with source info added. If I can't see the whole page and verify
> for myself that the newspaper name, date, page, and column are correct, can
> I still use use the newspaper model on EE page 809? It does look better to
> me.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Jennifer Guimond
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Harold Henderson <
> > wrote:
>
>> Jennifer --
>>
>> I think your citation is fine, but it can be a little finer if you want.
>> You have all the information there. If you want to tweak it, I would follow
>> the model on p. 809 (section 14.22) of Evidence Explained. By citing the
>> actual newspaper first and then giving the online information, you can save
>> a few words, and also that make it fall into a pattern very familiar from
>> on-line census citations.
>>
>> For clippings sent to you, I'm not sure citation rules require you to
>> describe the full path of acquisition, but it seems courteous and helpful
>> to do so. If you reverse the format as EE suggests, then you can just say
>> something like, "obtained via PPNF" or something like that. This would be
>> analogous to crediting a fellow researcher who provided a lookup.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Jennifer Guimond <>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to cite some newspaper clippings and I'm not sure of the best
>>> format to use. The source is a databse called the Pikes Peak NewsFinder,
>>> hosted by a library district. It provides an index of articles from
>>> newspapers in Colorado Springs, CO. In some cases, there is a link to an
>>> imaged clipping of the article, in which case I cite as follows (please
>>> correct me if I'm wrong here):
>>>
>>> "Pikes Peak NewsFinder," database and images, *Pikes Peak Library
>>> District:PPLD* (
>>> http://more.ppld.org:8080/SpecialCollections/Index/article_search.asp :
>>> accessed 21 Oct 2010); image of newspaper clipping for "Zeldia Anne
>>> Hankins
>>> Dies; Rites Thursday"; citing Colordao Springs (Colorado) Gazette
>>> Telegraph,
>>> 14 August 1973, p. B1, col. 2.
>>>
>>>
>>> In cases where there is no image of the article online, there is a option
>>> to
>>> order the article, and this is where I get confused. The articles I
>>> receive
>>> are similiar to the ones found online--images of newspaper clippings--but
>>> sent via email. I want to keep the reference to the database, because
>>> that's how I found the article. But I'm wondering about the best way to
>>> note that the image was provided by the library rather than available
>>> online.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your input!
>>>
>>> Jennifer Guimond
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Harold Henderson
>> Research and Writing from NW Indiana
>> Professional genealogy in and around Chicago -- Rockford to Fort Wayne,
>> Muskegon to Indianapolis
>> midwesternmicrohistory.blogspot.com
>> midwestroots.net
>>
>>
>


--
Harold Henderson
Research and Writing from NW Indiana
Professional genealogy in and around Chicago -- Rockford to Fort Wayne,
Muskegon to Indianapolis
midwesternmicrohistory.blogspot.com
midwestroots.net

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