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From: Rondina Muncy <>
Subject: Re: [TGF] Entitled Titles - Citing FHL microfilms
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:50:15 -0600
It looks to me like you are mixing the volume/entry information with the
microfilm information which is misleading. This also looks like a
bibliography entry rather than a footnote as Althea submitted.
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Fredric Z. Saunders <
> Hi Althea,
> Working with FHL films everyday, this is one of my pet peeves when
> researchers make their citations from the catalog, rather than from the
> film. While the catalog, may "title" the film as "Volumes 4-5" having
> at Tuscarawas County marriage records before, those are two separate
> volumes, 4 and 5, not one bound volume called "volumes 4-5" (which in some
> cases you might encounter such a multiple volume.) I like to make the
> citation so someone examining the record book in person(at the county or an
> archives, where ever it now is) knows the exact title of the volume, or
> case, which volume to look at (4? or 5?).
> I typically make the citation to FHL microfilms in the general form:
> title, publication information, FHL film number, item number, frame number.
> IF the spine/front page of the book is microfilmed, I use that title, (in
> quotes) otherwise, I might "derive" a title either from the card catalog or
> the microfilm itself, and put it in brackets. The publication information
> also important, as many FHL microfilms are not microfilmed by them, but by
> state archives, etc., that the FHL purchased. It is also only fair to give
> the publisher credit.
> The publication information also lets people know if the microfilm they are
> using at a state archives is the same one as at the FHL, or perhaps a
> different copy that could be consulted in the case of bad images, or
> images. The information about "another filming" is used (usually) for a
> first FHL filming, and lets you know that there is a newer filming (that
> hopefully is better). In looking at the catalog, your filming was done in
> 1963, and another was done in 1972, so you do need to indicate which
> you are using (publication date).
> I would make the citation as something like the following, depending on the
> title of the spine of the book or if it was microfilmed.
> Tuscarawas County, Ohio. Probate Court. "Marriage Record Volume 5"
> [1860-1872] (Salt Lake City, Utah: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of
> Utah, 1963), p. 370, No. 9598, ___ Trickle- ____ Watkins, FHL Microfilm
> 317307, Item 2.
> I don't recall what the exact title Tuscarawas County uses for their books,
> (the spines are microfilmed if I remember right), but used the above as an
> Rick Saunders
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of
> Althea Treakle
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 8:55 PM
> Subject: [TGF] Entitled Titles - Citing FHL microfilms
> Hello TGF's
> I ordered FHL microfilm 317,307 in the year 2000 and based on my original
> citation, my first reference note reads:
> Tuscarawas County, Ohio, Marriage Records, vol. 4-5 (1845-1872) : 370, no.
> 9598, Trickle-Watkins, 1863; Probate Court, New Philadelphia.
> Today, I entered the FHL film number into the FHL website to double check
> work. The film notes NOW read:
> Another filming, 1963. (Volumes 4-5) Family History Library US/CAN Film
> My research log from 1 April 2000 shows the title as Marriage Records,
> vol. 4-5 (1845-1872); the microfilm receipt also reflects this title.
> Should I incorporate the new title? It doesn't seem appropriate.
> Which leads to the next question. When converting 10 years of citations to
> reflect the principals in EE, it is likely that I will come across
> situations where titles have changed to reflect a more accurate recording
> of the data or cyber links become non-existent. What should I do in these
> situations? Thank you.
> Crazy about accuracy,
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