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Subject: Re: [TX-CEMETERY-PRESERVATION] Texas Cemetery Visitation Day
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:22:18 -0500
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This is the restriction I am working under. I cannot even enter the cemetery to find out what graves are there. I think it'll be easier if those that can enter the cemetery take their family's gravestones pictures and I'll post them.

Allen Wheatley
http://teafor2.com

p.s. I seem to be required to post this whole letter:
Attachment:

From:
Subject: photographs Date: Sep 18 2002 11:22a
To: "Mr. Wheatley" <>
Bottom of Form 0

Mr. Wheatley, I have talked to several supervisors
upline from me and the concensous is that you have
no right to publish the personal information that
grieving families put on their loved one's memorials
without permission.

Emailed "permission" will not be accepted or approved.
Only signed and notorized requests postmarked directly
from the family to me will be accepted.

Roy Drake
Administrator
Crown Hill Memorial Park and Mausoleum
9700 Webb Chapel Road
Dallas, TX 75220-3556

Once approved, we will contact you so you can come out
and take that one picture. In the mean time, remove
all personal information garnered from our cemetery
which you posted without permission. Meet the conditions
as stated above in order to repost.

With one exception: my brother's marker. You niether do,
nor will ever have permission to post his personal
information anywhere. When he died his tragic death, and
we laid him to rest, and put a marker there, we did not
for one second imagine or intend for the personal
information on it to be broadcast throughout the earth.
We didn't even put it in the newspapers locally. And you
didn't even have the common decency to ask for permission
before doing this.

Failure to remove the personal information you put on
your website about the families represented here will
force us to begin contacting each family to inform them
of what you have done. To test the waters, I contacted
a few families involved. They spoke of shock, anger,
hurt, and legal action, but one it didn't bother. I
explained the procedure as stated above, gave them your
URL, and that one person said they would be in touch.

My email is

You may reproduce, print, share, reply, upload, or post
this email in whole, but not in part.

Roy Drake


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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TX-CEMETERY-PRESERVATION] Texas Cemetery Visitation Day


Is this the same one???

CROWN HILL MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY at Dallas: 9718 Webb Chapel Road, 75220.
972/357-3984. Hughes Funeral Home, Mausoleum, Crematory. Arc Deco Mausoleum.
1941- . The bank robber, Bonnie Parker, is buried here; her grave moved from
Fish Trap Cemetery (qv) after her headstone was repeatedly stolen. Her lover
and partner-in-crime, Clyde Barrow, is buried at Western Heights Cemetery
(qv). Dallas County, Texas, Genealogical Data from Early Cemeteries, Dallas
Genealogical Society, 1982. "Bonnie, Clyde fans delight in Dallas tour,"
Houston Chronicle (Associated Press by Renee C. Lee), 04 Dec 2000.

(from my in-progress book on Dallas County cemeteries ... )

I'm an avid cemetery researcher myself, and realize that the tombstone may be
the only record and by transcribing and publishing or placing a transcript in
the nearest local history section or genealogy section of our local library
may help some family researcher. However, I believe that we are in danger of
getting "too familiar" with a private area. None of us should feel offended
if someone asks us not to take photographs or transcribe private family
cemeteries OR family plots/gravestones in a "public" cemetery. Many people
believe the last resting place of a loved one is their personal space to
visit and to mourn .... and they don't want the information spread all over
the Internet --- any more than they would want their birth certificate or
death certificate placed out for all to see.
And those "ghostbusters" who visit at midnight are taking their life in
hand ... if you get shot at during one of these "trips," don't blame anyone
but yourself. Be careful out there and ask for permission first!

When asked, let's give them (family, cemetery personnel, etc.) some room.
In fact, we should remember that the cemetery is not as "public" as we'd
like to think and perhaps we should be far more careful than we are about
walking in 'to do our thing.' We would not walk into someone else's home
without invitation or approval.

It's a judgment call. And I love old cemeteries and the history they hold!

Trevia Wooster Beverly
Houston, Texas


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