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Subject: [TXBELL] Re: Land -weddings and BSOG's
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:20:05 EDT

lynna, thanks for the letter on washington co.
I just saw it today---my helpful pchardware man--had put it in file cabinet
for me. grin

Sharolyn had plotted the DODD land--it was on the banks of that BIGTOMBEE
river so it was easy to see that the 'gang' could have married, clark,
washington and choctaw co.'s.

We have long searched for probates on the DODD bunch--and the CAVE bunch and
this last two years or so? have also looked for Martin and McDowell and
ASHLEY and Glass and Hawkins, names as well as Reid, reed and Read--for
lucinda cave reid.

It seems the DODD land remained lastly in Choctwaw CO alabama--and was once a
part of clark and washington. The courthouse at choctaw co. did NOT have
probate for any DODD by DOD or any spelling for the years 1855 through 1865.

I only paid for a search on the DODD name as that researcher was not as
good or as honest as james williams. I also paid for a walkthrough of a
cemetery in Arkansas-Bladon Springs. Not productive.

I have considered joining the local genealogy society again, and hopefully
one of them will help us with some looking through old publications and
such.? I did this once about 5 years ago and it was negative results....
Usually a donation to the local club will have good results and contacts--

-The university of virginia at richmond is on line !!!! and they have done
some DODD/Cave looking for me-but only surface. I spent one day there last
year and it is a really beautiful and well managed library of old records.
Found just tidbits but nothing that really helped.

I am stingy with my searching dollars and usually only spend when I know the
records are there, as I am a KEPT woman and my husband funds this HOBBY?
He is more than fair-- whats his is mine- type thing--and secretly( I think)
he knows that I spend far less on this than I do if I am out shopping or
having lunch with the girls!!

There are some places you mentioned that I have not looked--and will do so.
thanks again---judy

But, CAVE/DODD/KITE all were there--in VA, NC and SC and into Ala (kites went
to GA) and down into TX by 1860.

I have a packet--hand written by Mrs. L,Burch and I am going to search it
out where I have stuck it (for safekeeping) --but, basically I think it only
deals with the texas bunch OF BASS/CAVE. She keeps after me to join the DAR
and the one for Texas early birds. Between my husbands people and mine--we
qualify for DAR on 8 lines-proven.--there are DODD cousins in NC who were
RevWar--but, I have not connected our DODD to them--they think we are? but
neither of us can prove it with documents.

There is in the personal papers of General George Washington- letters and
bills for guns made by the gunsmith JOHN DODD of Charleston town. sold to
Washington and paid for personally by him and supplied to the INDIANS who he
encouraged to fight against the BRITISH. (papers in Nat. archives-on line).
MY JONATHAN DODD was listed as a gunsmith in 1850 and his birth year is
given as 1784 NC or SC?(varies). He had a brother George who also was not a
planter and in the will of their father--they are (basically) requested to
let the younger brothers have the land to farm (and to not gripe about it.)
We believe the younger men were half brothers-by another wife? unproven!!

Anyway, I have been unable to connect John DODD of Charleston gun smith shop
with my Jonathan DODD of NC (Johnston co. in 1810 tax list). Although, gun
smithy was a trade taught by doing? And the elder boys could have been put
out to guardianship and training? ABSOLUTELY not proven.

I think the CAVE-DODD-and my KITE lines all were in the same areas--and most
probably knew each other???. The Kites bounced back and forth from VA to Ala
to Georgia as did the DODDs. The DODDs in Gwinnete Georgia and the KITES that
were in Gwinnete Georgia--are MY LINE--but that DODD line married into the
KITE line and I can not connect that DODD line to the one in old JONATHAN
DODD.(to explain this more simply--my grandmother dodd had a dodd line
(choctaw co. alabama) AND her husbnd joe Kite also had a DODD line(gwinette
dodds of neddie)

Also, a puzzle is the CAVE familys who were in MISSISSIPPI-- trying to
connect them to the Alabama ones--1840-50-60 and possibly ashley and
dodd's? kite?

And this is the most puzzling one of all......My Ashley Haywood DODD born
1815 NC (most probably Johnston co. NC) and his brother James Riley DODD?
seem to be thick together until ashley dies in 1860 and then james riley
sorta stays around where his sister in law is located? --but the other DODD
men in the 1850 census are vanished--and some think them to be actually
MCDOWELL men raised as DODDs?

1. circumstancial evidence: In Johnston Co. NC. there was a family sirname
of ASHLEY who moved into MISSISSIPPI about the time that JONATHAN DODD went
into Alabama ( 1830) ish. The CAVE family also went into MISSISSIPPI.

In working with the ASHLEY FAMILY on their web link---? they said they had a
legend that while the ASHLEYS were in Mississippi and some DODD people came
to visit? The ASHLEYS put on a huge party and invited the whole country. BUT
they have forgotten the reason for the party? (oh me)-------now these ASHLEY
family are in BELL CO.TX in 1880!!!!

OKAY---BSOG TIME---(Best Soap Opera Guess)???COULD they have had the party
when Ashley haywood dodd and james riley dodd families passed through on
their way to texas? Stop over in mississippi to visit RELATIVES of their
mother? HUMMMMMMMMmmmm? and Martha Louisa DODD Hairston was born in
Mississippi in 1855?

I THINK? Ashley Haywood DODD (born 1815) was named for his mother's people or
ASHLEY family. I think James Riley DODD (born 1820) was also birthed by the
ASHLEY woman??? AND POSSIBLY William and Henry,too?
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this is basically the 1850 choctaw co. census--some are left out)
.DOD, JOHNATHAN, 66, M, Gun Smith, SC,
Lusinda, 48, F, SC did this woman-birth ashely at age 12 or 13?
Wm, 32, M, Planter, AL
Henry, 27, M, AL
Caroline E., 11, F, AL
Isaac M., 9, M, AL

DODD, Ashley., 35, M, Planter, NC,
Louisa, 34, F, SC (lucy ann cave rabon)
Elisabeth, 13, F, AL
James M., 10, M, AL
Marilla, 8, F, AL
L.T., 6, M, AL
Amelia, 1, F, AL

Henderson DODD born 1852 alabama

DODD, JAMES, 20, M, Planter, AL,
Sarah, 19, F, AL (sarah CAVE)
Larra D., 4, F, AL
Fordonia, 2, F, AL
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ashley born 1815
James riley born 1820
Wm, born 1818 AL
Henry, born 1823 AL

Caroline E born 1839 AL
Isaac M. born 1841 AL

Dugal Dodd born 1846 Ala. in household of loucendia Dodd, choctaw co. cen.
1860

ages: 1815, 1818 1820 and 1823? then the ASHLEY MOTHER? lady dies--? about
1823 ish?

Old man marries (LOUCENDIA mARTIN mCdOWELL?) and raises Caroline born 1839
and Isaac" M" born 1841 and Dugal Dodd born 1846?

yep, I know its stretching....but it may help me to get past the wall??. We
have not tracked any of wiliam, henry, caroline, isaac or dugal with any real
success.
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Sure wish I knew if the CAVE family was ever tight with an ASHLEY line in
MIss--?
Some reason drew this bunch to Milam/Bell co. area? right?
love j.

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