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From: Michael Bouy< >
Subject: [TSL] Tiplady family > Australia
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:20:47 +1000 (EST)

Hi Jan in Ohio -

Thanks for your patience. I finally had a chance to look for Thomas and
Margaret Tiplady, arriving in Victoria sometime between 1857-1861.

Index of Assisted Immigration from Britain to Melbourne
- Tiplady, Elizabeth, arrived 1 July 1863 on the ship "Caduceus"

Index of Unassisted Immigration from Britain to Melbourne, 1857-1868
- Tiplady, Margaret, arrived 28 June 1865 on the ship "Queen of the North"
- no Thomas Tiplady on the index

The second one is in fact the match you are looking for, except I think it
will present more questions than it answered. I looked up the passenger
list, which shows the following:

"Queen of the North", 1668 tons, Wm. Forsyth - Master
from Liverpool to Melbourne on 27 March 1865, arriving 28 June 1865

Margaret Tiplady, age 30, profession - wife, English

Below her name, crossed out, is Thomas Tiplady, age 8, child

So you see, Thomas Tiplady was Margaret's child. Why was he crossed out? It
appears he was not on the ship, and must have been left behind in Liverpool.
It is possible that he may have died on the voyage, but this is unlikely as
there are no notes on the list to show his death, while there are notes that
two women gave birth to stillborn babies on the voyage, and another note
that a specific passenger was "idiotic" and would be a burden on the
charitable institutions of the colonies.

Therefore, we can only conclude that Thomas Tiplady, 8 years old, did not
come to Australia with his mother. Perhaps he died in England before the
ship left.

This begs the question -- what about the birth of a child to Thomas and
Margaret Tiplady in 1866, which you found on the Vic Gold index? I checked
for the same info in the Victorian Pioneers Index, and there is the
following record:

-George Robert Tiplady, born 1866 in Beaufort, Victoria, to Thomas Tiplady and
Margaret Morton.

It could be that Margaret was pregnant when she left Liverpool, which means
that the latest she could have given birth would be January 1866. Perhaps
the only way to find out how the pieces fit together is to send for the
birth registration. If you want to send me US$20 I can get it and mail it to
you. If you want the form to do it yourself, you will have to send the
Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages a bank cheque in Australian dollars.
Let me know.

The fact that Margaret was a paid passenger, sent on her own, her 8-year old
child's name was crossed out, and her husband didn't arrive any time in a
3-year period near her arrival, and she gave birth 9 months after departing
Liverpool makes you ask many questions. Did she have an extra-marital affair
and get sent to Australia to have the baby? Did her husband and son die in
England?

There are other Tiplady records in the Victorian Pioneers Index, but their
relationship to yours is doubtful, because we have no record of Thomas
Tiplady, Margaret's husband, ever arriving in Melbourne unless he came via
another port, such as Adelaide or Sydney. (This is a possibility, as
Beaufort is on the Great Western Highway which runs between Melbourne and
Adelaide.)

-Elizabeth Tiplady [from the ship Caduceus], married 1865 to Jerry Smith
-Thomas Tiplady, died 1866, age 36, son of Robert and Mary Tiplady
-Thomas Tiplady, died 1867, son of William Tiplady and Mary Monaghan
-Thomas Tiplady, born 1867 in Bathurst, son of William Tiplady & Mary Hannah
-Robert Tiplady, married 1868 to Anne White
-John Henry Tiplady, born 1873 in Sandhurst, son of Robert Tiplady & Anne White
-John Henry Tiplady, died 1874 in Sandhurst, son of Robert Tiplady & Anne White
-Mary Tiplady, died 1873, age 50
-Robert Tiplady, died 1880, age 47

No other record of Margaret Tiplady, either a marriage or a death. Very
strange. Did she go to the USA? I'm curious now - are you descended from her
son George or Thomas? Please write back with more information (off-line, of
course).

Best regards -

Michael Bouy
Melbourne, Australia

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