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From: "Chris Reay" <>
Subject: Re: [TSL] A newcomer looking for three ships!
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:04:09 -0000
Thank you Harry for your e-mail.
I am interested to find out about these ships as one day I am hoping to find
some pictures of these ships to add to my pictorial record of the family
My Robert Reay was definitely born in 1804. I have several pieces of
evidence / proof that indicate this date.
The names of the ships that I listed were from the Sunderland records.
Unfortunately, for some reason my Robert Reay is not included on the Lloyds
list or the 1861 census.
Thanks for the info. on the Vessel Lebarron at Cliffe. I think that this
has to be the ship! Would there be any further records about the ship and
where she went to, during the period of the late 1800s?
Lastly, I think that you are right I need to go onto the Mariners list too.
I was given it but the address I have is not working, so if it's no bother,
could you just send it to me please.
Many thanks in advance for your time and help. It is much appreciated!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Harry Dodsworth <>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 3:50 AM
Subject: [TSL] A newcomer looking for three ships!
> Sarah Reay <> asks several questions about her
> husband's ancestors who were seamen. This question really belongs on
> the mariners list - TSL is primarily for emigrants and their ships.
> There is a book for tracing British seamen 'My ancestor was a Merchant
> Seaman' by Chris Watts (?) which describes the proper way to search
> for them.
> I normally use two quick tools, the 1861 UK census of seamen, and the
> 1869 Lloyd's Register of British Captains, because both are available
> on microfiche at the local FHC.
> The 1861 census doesn't appear to show a Robert Reay of the right age
> although there are a number of Reays born in the Sunderland area.
> The 1869 Captain's Register has a Robert Reay born Sunderland 1814
> (Sarah posted 1804) certificate (S45,761), captain of the Aurea,
> Official number 1,704 from 1866-68 in the Continental trade.
> There was a Brig Rosina from Sunderland, master John Bell, listed
> in Lloyd's Register of Shipping (LR) between at least 1829 and 1839.
> A Snow Essay from Sunderland is first listed in LR in 1832. Two
> captain's are listed until 1839 (neither Geo Huckleridge). She traded
> to St. Petersburg.
> So if Robert Reay was born in 1814, he could have been apprenticed
> around 1830 on the Rosina but not become mate of the Essay until
> after 1839.
> The other relative Chris. Waterstreet was listed on vessel Leabanon
> on the main fiche of the Kent 1881 census (probably on the CD also).
> However the supplementary fiche of vessels enumerated had:
> Vessel Lebarron (sp), enumerated at Cliffe, Official Number 62,594,
> Homeport: London, Master: Alfred Fox, Tonnage 595, Description:
> Screw steamer Schooner rigged in Spanish trade.
> This gives a thumbnail description of the ship and would serve to
> identify her in Lloyd's Register. (The LDS only has certain years).
> So the outline of the family history looks reasonable but it will
> need quite a bit more work to fill the gaps.
> Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada
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