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From: Sue Swiggum <>
Subject: Re: [TSL] Ireland - Canada famine passengers
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:03:37 -0400
Hi BB, (maybe you should reset your computer clock as it says August 17th
and disappeared up in my inbox as soon as I downloaded it <grin>..I spotted
the Subject matter, and went looking)
There is quite a lot of material for 1847. We have extensive 1847 pages on
I looked in "A Register of Deceased Persons at Sea and on Grosse Isle in
1847" by André Charbonneau and Doris Drolet-Dubé and although I found a few
"Black" names, there was no David. This does not mean that they didn't
arrive in that year, as those records are incomplete.
I think your best course of action is to look at the 1851 census. I looked
on inGeneas http://www.ingeneas.com/ingeneas/index.html and found Blacks
in the 1851 Ontario, but none that exactly fit with yours, not even close
to "Ottawa" so maybe Quebec is where you should be looking. Is there an
1851 Quebec census? I expect so. There is also an 1861 Canada census,
although I don't have census experience to guide you.
These are the Blacks listed in the book cited above:
On ships at sea or on ships in quarantine
Black, Judith 5 Minerva from Galway 1847-06-17 Quebec 1847-08-14
Black, Margaret 5 Ann from Liverpool 1847-05-16 Quebec 1847-06-30
Black, Maria 3 Ann from Liverpool 1847-05-16 Quebec 1847-06-30
Black, Patrick ? Ann from Liverpool 1847-05-16 Quebec 1847-06-30
Black, Richard 4 John Bolton from Liverpool 1847-04-13 Quebec
Black, Sarah 1 Constitution from Belfast 1847-04-21 Quebec
On Grosse Isle (in hospital)
Black, James 21 Zealous from London died 1847-08-16
Black, William 24 Pursuit from Liverpool died between June 27 &
July 3 1847
At 03:03 PM 2002-08-17 -0500, BB Smiles wrote:
>I am seeking information on my GG grandfather¹s arrival by ship from Ireland
>The only information I have is from an old handwritten LDS family group
>record and it¹s a bit of a puzzle trying to find the missing pieces. Hope
>someone out there has some more information.
>LDS records show:
>John C. Black, stonecutter
>Born: 7 Feb 1817 in Armgh No. Ireland
>Married: 9 Mar 1843 to Ellen (Eleanor) Woods in Killnareaty, Armgh Co., No.
>Ireland, (church vineyard?).
>Died: 22 Apr 1900 in Angelica, Wisconsin.
>LDS records shows they may have came on a ship with two children Robert and
>David as records show:
>Robert Black born Ernigh, Ireland on 5 Jan 1844
>David Black born Armagh, Ireland on 184? and died on ship before 1900.
>Another LDS records says: Dave died on shipboard & buried just as they
>entered the St. Lawrence River. The records do not show the exact date of
>birth, only 184? with a question mark. Another record shows David may have
>been their first child.
>(Note the names of birth places above are spelled differently, this is on
>the LDS record.)
>After the family settled in Canada they had more children. Records show
>their next child, Joseph Black being born in Canada on 9 May 1849.
>It shows they had several more children born in Canada and one, John Curtis
>Black, being born in Ottawa. This could be the city of Ottawa, Ontario or it
>could be Ottawa Co., Quebec. Through further research on my own, I came
>across the Black family settling in Masham, Quebec, a small farm community
>near Wakefield, Quebec, this is in Ottawa, Co.. Later in 1866 the family
>arrived in Michigan and settled in Angelica, Wisconsin around 1869.
>My guess is they arrived in Canada during the mass wave of Irish immigrants
>escaping the famine and know it may be a long shot trying to pin point the
>family's port of departure/arrival, date and ship name.
>Any help would be much appreciated.
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