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From: Sue Swiggum <>
Subject: Re: [TSL] passenger list information
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 18:26:53 -0400
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20041203153158.00a78940@theshipslist.com>


Hi Steve,

At 03:32 PM 2004-12-03 -0400, Steve Linham wrote:
>My grandfather, Eli Richard Linham and his daughter, Edna May Linham,
>sailed from England March 17, 1922 and landed in Halifax, Nova Scotia on
>March 29th.
>
>Now, his hand writing makes this tricky. The ship he identifies as R.M.S.
>Usonia (looks like) but I this it is Estonia.

The RMS (Royal Mail Ship) cancels out the Baltic-America Line Estonia, as
those ships sailed from Libau and Danzig etc. The Ultonia was no more by
then (lost in 1917) so the second Ausonia occurs, but she didn't make her
maiden voyage until August 1922. A passage time of March 17-29 seems a
little long for the period too . . .where did you get the infomation about
the trip, and how long afterwards did he write it? Often the actual year
of emigration is misremembered. The date/month are usually close.

>Can you shed any light on whether or not a ship, one of those names,
>landed in Halifax on March 29, 1922?

The only close arrival for your year/date would be the White Star Line Reel
REGINA, from Liverpool, England 1922-03-16 to Halifax, N.S. / Portland, ME
1922-03-25. Looking ahead one year, I find the Cunard Line AUSONIA from
Liverpool, England 1923-03-[17] to Halifax, N.S. 1923-03-25 . . this one
might have been more likely. Cunard Line ships ended in IA, is probably
the shipping line you are after, didn't begin sailing to Canada before 1922.

>I have exchanged e-mails with a lady from the Pier 21 National Historic
>Site in Halifax. She informs me that in 1922, they would have arrived and
>been processed at Pier 2. She further stated that such records are
>available only on unindexed microfilm at the National Archives in Ottawa.

Yes, Pier 21 wouldn't have a clue pre-1927. Not necessarily "unindexed" as
this was during the Form 30A period of record keeping. The Form 30A
records cover the period 1919-1924 and all records for the period, for all
ports of arrival are on alphabetized reels. They are in quasi-alphabetical
order, with some interfiling, but it is easy to limit needed research to
usually one reel of microfilm.

One caveat though. You are writing from the US, so if your Linham's
proceeded directly to the US after arrival, jump over the next instructions
as it is very unlikely they would appear on a Form 30A record.
__________________Form 30A___________________
http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#1924
Form 30A information

(the National Archives have changed their Genealogy links AGAIN) <sigh>
http://www.genealogy.gc.ca/10/100804_e.html
Form 30A information

http://www.genealogy.gc.ca/10/10080401_e.html#lm
L-M reels

T-15100 Liebman, Henry to Link, Maude
Surname groupings: Liebman, Li, Lightfoot, Li, Lindsay, Li, Link

The passenger manifest is on Microfilm at the National Archives of Canada
[NAC], in Ottawa. The Ships are placed on the reel, in order of arrival.
You can borrow these reels on an Inter Library Loan [ILL]. You can find the
details for this procedure at this NAC Genealogy Research URL
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/ill/index-e.html
You are also able to ILL from Ottawa, to libraries in the US, and outside
North America. These microfilms contain arrivals from ALL ports, they are
not indexed. These films are available onsite at the NAC in Ottawa, and
also at the North York Central Branch of the Toronto Public Library,
Toronto, Ontario and the Cloverdale Branch of the Surrey Public Library,
Surrey, B.C. (North York now has ALL, up to 1935, including the Form 30A
records)
The LDS now have copies of the post-1900 Canadian arrivals, so check here
for links and
details http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#lds
__________________________________________

Now . . if they proceeded directly to the US, you would need to consult the
CAN-US border entry records, the St. Albans lists.
Visit this NARA website to read this great Prologue Article .... --By Way
of Canada-- you can find the link here
http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm#St.Albans

The St. Albans lists can be a really rich resource, so you should learn a
lot, including the shipname and arrival details, in fact, if they proceeded
directly, it will actually be a "passenger list" for those US destined
passengers on that ship.

best of luck :-}

Sue
--
a **new** CD ROM from TheShipsList 1865-1899
http://www.theshipslist.com/cdrom/index.htm
In production, CAN & US ship arrivals 1900-1939

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